50 BMG bullet identification.

[Alberta Woodsman]

Hey all. I recently got a container of pulled mil-surp 50bmg bullets. Having some issues identifying them.

Firstly in the pic the two laying flat, I believe the silver tip is API but im Not sure what the black with light blue tip is.

2nd theres a few tracer rounds. Some have a red base some are black is there a difference?

https://imgur.com/Gmsha4x

 

[bjmurata]

Is it possible the black and light blue could be dark blue and light blue?
I found a reference to post war French ammunition id's in an online copy of The Small Caliber Ammunition Guide Vol.1published by the US Army that lists a dark blue/light blue combination as an incendiary round in 12.7×99 more commonly known as 50 BMG

 

[M&P 40]

This may help

https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/50.htm

 

[contact148]

Looks like ap incendiary

BUT who knows what country made them and colour might not be standard....

 

[call2arms]

I went through my mixed bag of pulled 50 BMG. Most interesting was a blue and then black band as well as a blue/red/black marked

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

Is it possible the black and light blue could be dark blue and light blue?
I found a reference to post war French ammunition id's in an online copy of The Small Caliber Ammunition Guide Vol.1published by the US Army that lists a dark blue/light blue combination as an incendiary round in 12.7×99 more commonly known as 50 BMG

Definitely black with a blue tip. Ive seen examples of the dark/light blue. I may caelrefully cut one open to see.

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

I went through my mixed bag of pulled 50 BMG. Most interesting was a blue and then black band as well as a blue/red/black marked

Im almost certain those are Amour Piercing Incindiary Tracer

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Definitely black with a blue tip. Ive seen examples of the dark/light blue. I may caelrefully cut one open to see.

Having played with chemicals in my young days, I'd leave well enough alone.

Grizz

 

[Cameron SS]

Definitely black with a blue tip. Ive seen examples of the dark/light blue. I may caelrefully cut one open to see.

Yeah I wouldn't be cutting open any APIs, or anything that could be an API, unless you know what you are doing. And those bottom two are definitely APIs.

From the regulations prescribing this or that as prohibited:

PART 5
Prohibited Ammunition
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 10
2 Any projectile that is designed, manufactured or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter.

 

[Beater]

black and red together is API blue and black is most likely the same, but not positive.

silver is standard ball

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

Yeah I wouldn't be cutting open any APIs, or anything that could be an API, unless you know what you are doing. And those bottom two are definitely APIs.

From the regulations prescribing this or that as prohibited:

And I bet you follow every speed limit too eh. They are just to look at. won't be firing any anytime soon. Besides they have already been in this country for at least 30 years with the guy that gave them to me.

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

Having played with chemicals in my young days, I'd leave well enough alone.

Grizz

yes I've had my fair share of OOPS too.

 

[Cameron SS]

And I bet you follow every speed limit too eh. They are just to look at. won't be firing any anytime soon. Besides they have already been in this country for at least 30 years with the guy that gave them to me.

Just wanted to make sure people knew what the applicable law was. That's all.

Such as the fact that it doesn't matter how long they have been here, and that it is possession that is prohibited, and not their firing. Firing them is probably the best way to legally dispose of them. Or you could just keep them. I couldn't care less what you own friend. No I don't follow every speed limit and ask me how I know what APIs look like.

 

[WobblyHead]

You could try contacting this guy he did a good job of sectioning bullets.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...12-Tracer-Armor-Piercing-etc-Bullet-sectioned

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

Just wanted to make sure people knew what the applicable law was. That's all.

Such as the fact that it doesn't matter how long they have been here, and that it is possession that is prohibited, and not their firing. Firing them is probably the best way to legally dispose of them. Or you could just keep them. I couldn't care less what you own friend. No I don't follow every speed limit and ask me how I know what APIs look like.

No worries, I’ve knew they were “prohibited”. I doubt most govt officals or even RCMP know that law themselves, silly canadian gunlaws is all. Somebody has to keep them on their toes right?

 

[Alberta Woodsman]

You could try contacting this guy he did a good job of sectioning bullets.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...12-Tracer-Armor-Piercing-etc-Bullet-sectioned

Thanks! I did the same thing as this guy. They both are API’s. Not sure why they have different color codes.

 

[Cameron SS]

Thanks! I did the same thing as this guy. They both are API’s. Not sure why they have different color codes.

Not everyone is on board with NATO stanag ammunition markings.

 

[ShawnC6]

Thanks! I did the same thing as this guy. They both are API’s. Not sure why they have different color codes.

Once my lot of projectiles show up I’ll be sectioning a black / blue and a silver tip.

I am expecting to see similar to the most recent one I posted which Looks like it was a red / black with most paint worn off.

 

[ShawnC6]

Silver tip

Black / blue tip
They look very similar but with slight changes to design

Blue / red / black tip

Tracer with metal base. One in my linked thread is a red plastic base.