50 BMG's Legal in Canada
- Thread starter Yehen
- Start date
A number of the Barrett models are prohibited by name so no go there. What is not prohibited, can not be exported so it doesn't really matter much...
http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/r&p_e.asp
Former Prohibited Weapons Order No. 11
-The firearms of the designs commonly known as the Barrett "Light Fifty" Model 82A1 rifle and the Barrett Model 90 rifle, and any variants or modified versions of them.
BigDotGlock
Regular
BUT BUT BUT...what about the M107?
Some genious was bound to say it, I couldn't resist.
On a serius note, Barrett's .50's are the heat! I got a cance to spend an afternoon playing with an M107 last fall, it made me re-think coming home. If I could afford one I'd like to pick up an HS50, the 1MOA claim on them is bull though.
I take nothing away from Mr. Robertson because I have yet to meet someone that wasn't 200% happy with his products and services, but I have to hand it to Alberta Tactical and their 50's. They build to incredible guns and they also sell all the components to go with them
Mystic Precision
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Summerland, BC
Ian, is this the same as an RPA 'quadlock' or something like that?????
The guys at ABC brought out their 408 and 50bmg's to play built on these actions. Must say these were the nicest running and shooting Kaboomers at the S'land shoot.
The 338 LM is just a bit too small to be considered a KaBoomer.
Have a look at the post in the LR comp forum. More pics and ideas then we can ever have the budget to play with.
Personally, the BMG is nice to play with but if LR accuracy is your goal, there are much better, and less expensive options.
I would start with a 6.5 and stop at a 338. Like the 50's, we all had fun at 2400yds.
If you decide to go BMG, just make sure you understand where you are going to get components from. Besides costs, availability may become a long term problem.
Jerry
My brothers getting his FFL in the US. One thing he wants to get is a garand sniper and then a barrett 50 cal. Atta boy. Im soo jealous. The barrett 50cal is prohibited due to its 10 round magazine. The steyr HS 50cal isnt prohibited and I dont think its even restricted. So you have to load one round at a time: Big deal. Ive been looking at them. Theyre also half the price of the barrett. Where to find a 1000 yard range...
Some genious was bound to say it, I couldn't resist.
HAHA thanks for being the first!
The Barnard GP is like a super sized P action which is quite common and very available right now. It is a three lug action and uses the same trigger as the P. The tolerances they achieve in these actions is fantastic considering the size of them.
- Location
- calgary alberta
I built a 50 on a Barnard action for a fellow, the tolerances of the action were good, these actions seem almost over built, and thats a good thing.
The only 2 things I was not thrilled with is the lacking of a recoil lug, which I solved by making 1 and that to remove a live round from the chamber 1 must remove the bolt. Which is not a big issue if you don't mind dropping the cheekrest to remove the bolt each time.
Every normal style bolt action like the Barnard, McBros, RPA share 1 thing in common, the actions are all 12" or longer in length, which makes the rifles very long when you use a 30 plus inch long barrel.
Every action has pros and cons, the singleshots I build have 4" long actions, so rifles can be shorter. The downside is that they are slower to load as the cartridge must be set into the bolt similar to a shell holder in a reloading press.
The Nemesis rifles I am bringing in are repeaters and have folding stocks to keep the rifle compact for transit. I am sure that once they land here, we will discover like all rifles there are pros and cons as well.
The best advice I can give anyone looking into a 50 is to make sure you can get parts and service in country.
The only 2 things I was not thrilled with is the lacking of a recoil lug, which I solved by making 1 and that to remove a live round from the chamber 1 must remove the bolt. Which is not a big issue if you don't mind dropping the cheekrest to remove the bolt each time.
Every normal style bolt action like the Barnard, McBros, RPA share 1 thing in common, the actions are all 12" or longer in length, which makes the rifles very long when you use a 30 plus inch long barrel.
Every action has pros and cons, the singleshots I build have 4" long actions, so rifles can be shorter. The downside is that they are slower to load as the cartridge must be set into the bolt similar to a shell holder in a reloading press.
The Nemesis rifles I am bringing in are repeaters and have folding stocks to keep the rifle compact for transit. I am sure that once they land here, we will discover like all rifles there are pros and cons as well.
The best advice I can give anyone looking into a 50 is to make sure you can get parts and service in country.
The Barnard GP (for 50bmg) is intended to use a Barnard bedding block system that has proven to work so well. This is how it deals with recoil as opposed to using a washer type recoil lug. In the case Rick mentions above he decided to use a different system. This is also one of the ways the other Barnard actions can deal with recoil but not the only way. Parts are only a call or email away as with all the Barnard actions.
Personally, I wasn't impressed by the 50 Barnard or even the so called mag fed barnards. They're a oober smooth action, I'll give them that but they were never ment for a mag and should never have been sold as an action adaptable for one with the locking lug going right through the feed ramp.
As for all 50BMGs, when the gun is 5'8" in length due to a bolt that it a foot long, cumbersome is a HUGE understatement. If someone were to put a collapseable stock on a barnard and make it hollow with a butt pad that would turn sideways to pull a live round out and then open up the port to actually accommodate a 50cal round, they might be onto something.
The makers of the Ferret 50 were onto something when they made a bolt that didn't weigh a ton. The whole gun with MK4 scope is only 15lbs and with the agressive break, it's still comfortable to shoot. These 30+lb guns are just too heavy unless they're mounted to a vehicle.
Since Alberta Tactical Rifle has a Ferret 50, and we're getting our 4th axis CNC will be arriving next week, I'll be taking a serious look at what makes that gun tick because I believe theres a happen medium in weight and they don't have to be stupid heavy or cumbersome to do the job.
As for all 50BMGs, when the gun is 5'8" in length due to a bolt that it a foot long, cumbersome is a HUGE understatement. If someone were to put a collapseable stock on a barnard and make it hollow with a butt pad that would turn sideways to pull a live round out and then open up the port to actually accommodate a 50cal round, they might be onto something.
The makers of the Ferret 50 were onto something when they made a bolt that didn't weigh a ton. The whole gun with MK4 scope is only 15lbs and with the agressive break, it's still comfortable to shoot. These 30+lb guns are just too heavy unless they're mounted to a vehicle.
Since Alberta Tactical Rifle has a Ferret 50, and we're getting our 4th axis CNC will be arriving next week, I'll be taking a serious look at what makes that gun tick because I believe theres a happen medium in weight and they don't have to be stupid heavy or cumbersome to do the job.
I wouldn't go as far to say that parts
are only a phone call away or e-mail....... Seems like parts for the barnard take quite a bit a time to get.....Like any other i suppose, and numerous calls to new zealand are in order.......
Just my opinion of course......
are only a phone call away or e-mail....... Seems like parts for the barnard take quite a bit a time to get.....Like any other i suppose, and numerous calls to new zealand are in order.......
Just my opinion of course......
