.50 cal/AR lower design idea - input wanted!

Jonesyatpl

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Hey All,

So I was watching a review on the bolt action .50 upper from Dominion arms. Requires an AR lower.

With the idea of getting it to work in non-restricted form....

Does anybody with manufacturing experience see validity in taking an AR blank, and NOT finishing/drilling the Magwell, bolt release, mag release, buffer tube spring retaining pin, etc? Or would this still come in as restricted as an AR variant, since it mates up in the usual way? The only thing the lower provides for this .50 is really a trigger, safety, and a butt stock.

Discussion purposes only. I have neither the upper or an unfinished lower. Just seeing if there is a way to potentially use the upper anywhere other than a range. Think of the epic long range hunting potential and associated pics:) Also wondering if a CDN manufacturer might think of doing a run of these to complement those site sponsors offering the DA upper?

Just a random thought...
 
For the lower to not be restricted, it would need to not be capable of attaching to and firing a standard ar upper.

Atrs builds one. Modification of the 50 cal upper is needed to make it fit the Atrs lower. Once modified, the 50 cal upper will not function on a ar lower.
 
Well I'll be. Yes they do. Or did.

But I can see why they won't sell too many, versus guys giving up and going restricted, at that price. (Not an attack on ATRS, just general budget minded-ness comment)

I guess one day, when I have the excess money to burn, I'll try it when they get more in stock. Once the CFO of the house approves of course:)!
 
Well I'll be. Yes they do. Or did.

But I can see why they won't sell too many, versus guys giving up and going restricted, at that price. (Not an attack on ATRS, just general budget minded-ness comment)

I guess one day, when I have the excess money to burn, I'll try it when they get more in stock. Once the CFO of the house approves of course:)!

At what price? Still a cheap way to get into shooting a NR 50.
 
ATRS charges 750 over the cost of the upper to make it non-restricted. (When they do a run of the lowers).

My comment was: I can see where a guy can choose to pay 150 for a complete DA lower and keep it restricted, or pay the above to make it NR.

I can also see some guys who don't have access to wide open spaces being happy with just going to the range for the price difference, is all.
 
I will never understand the mindset of pursuing a 'cheap/budget' .50BMG rifle. There is nothing cheap/budget about shooting .50BMG
 
Didn't think this would degrade so fast.

When I say 'cheap', let's look at facts. You're paying the same price for the upper regardless. If it's in stock. Going with either lower will NOT improve performance, as you could do trigger jobs on both I am sure. So if performance is the same, some people will make the choice, save 600 bucks, (about 100 extra rounds of .50) and stick to a range.

That's all I was trying to say.
 
A restricted firearm can only be used on an approved range. Ranges approved for restricted and .50 might not be all that common - or long enough to make a .50 interesting.
 
How big is the market?
How many of these .50 uppers will need a NR upper, plus the one way modifications?
 
I will never understand the mindset of pursuing a 'cheap/budget' .50BMG rifle. There is nothing cheap/budget about shooting .50BMG

You answered your own question:

There is nothing cheap/budget about shooting .50BMG, so I can easily understand the mindset of pursuing a 'cheap/budget' .50bmg

Perfectly normal consumer behavior, as modeled in every other industry and service.
 
If I understand this correct the fact that the 50bmg upper mates with a ar type lower (restricted) regardless of there being a magwell (which would prevent it from ever being semi auto) is one of the conditions of keeping it restricted? So in reality the upper is restricted in use so long as it mates with an ar lower?
 
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