50%-price-increased or doubled Norinco M305 VS Spring Field M1A

But who really wants one?
I had one. Meh...... Fun for a bit. Got rid of it.

Why do you need 5 of them? or 10? Only the Tin Foil Hat guys think in those terms.

If you wanted one, you already have one from years ago. No need for panic buying.

And if you are crying about the price going up....buy one. Done. End of Story. No crying needed.
 
Thats crazy, I think if they go above 600$ they will see the sales drop big time. If they were 1000$ for an m305 I would just buy something else.
 
caramel said:
A regular Springfield is around 1600.00... A SA NM M1A is @ 2400.00 the difference are the NM stuff add on, NM barrel, NM 2 stage trigger, NM sniper sights, bedding, NM unitized gaz system, the more quality stock wont make a difference in accuracy if the bedding is well made...
Pretty sure you take a new batch DA M-14 add on those 800.00 of premiun parts and they will shoot very close one to another... JP.
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A Springfield M1A standard was over $2000 ten years ago. The dollars are closer together but I have not seen that the price of rifles has changed.
 
A Springfield NM M1A is like a Corvette ZR-1... You dont really need one but they are what they are... Real goods... JP.
 
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I have 2 Noc's, One tweaked 18.5" that shoots 1-2 MOA depending on the factory loads I am using and would be better if not for the one in 5 flyer, worse with surplus but it is what it is :). I am sure it will be better with a good hand-load and the time to work up a real nice load for it. The other I am working on, just have to knock of the Flash Hider and replace with a USGI flash hider and USGI front sight , and replace the Norc Rear Sight with a USGI spec one, and it will be done. As is with the Norc rear sight, and the slightly off center front sight it shoots pretty good, probably a 3-5 MOA gun. However, all this depends on what kind of a job the Dumba$$ attached to it is having :) . After I am finished my Garand Build, then I will get me a Springfield. But, I won't abandon my Norc's :)

Cheers
W99
 
xBrokenswordx said:
I've had 2 M305's, 1 m1A. The Norincos needed work, the M1A shoots great and needs nothing. I still have my M1A and would not buy another M305
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Interesting, I had three M1A's, the first one failed to work (i.e circa 1978), the second had a heavy barrel which worked fine, the third one worked fine but the bolt was out of spec (I had it for thirty years but never new it). I never had any problems with the three Norinco's M14's I have had. Also the Norinco's have forged receivers and bolts like the original M14's and hard chromed barrels. I also think it is very interesting to see the amount of problems that M1A users in the States have with them, also all the new ones have new commercially manufactured parts and do not have USGI parts.
 
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I don't know why some of you guys are complaining about a price increase - they are still $450-$499. If you don't want to pay $750 for one, buy one now?
 
Don Kael said:
I don't know why some of you guys are complaining about a price increase - they are still $450-$499. If you don't want to pay $750 for one, buy one now?
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How many rifles cost under $500? Not many and most are rimfires. Of course there are the milsurps.
 
Personally, and I might have posted this already.... But if dealers expect the m14 gravy train to keep rolling right along.... The price should be no where near 750.00

If the vendors can show us a rifle with newly manufactured receivers that pass GI standards and sights, flash hiders, stocks and general machining QC are also raised to same quality... Then fine, raise the price.
At this point, the known history on these rifles tells us that the chinese are getting to the bottom of the barrel of what was considered there last machining run (early 90's) so, dress em up however you want... (DA socom or otherwise) and at the end of the day..... You've got the same cheap rifle.

Price increases to over 500.00 retail will be met with guys moving on to other firearms, garauntee it.
 
You guys gotta stop talkin about how cheap the Norks are and start complaining because they aren't $300. The dealers read these forums and every time someone mentions how cheap the Norks are they are reminded that they could and should raise the price and make more money.

On that note I am upset that I had to pay soooo much for a rifle that was only made in China. Those Norks are sure expensive. I wouldn't pay $500 that's for sure.
 
I know your post was a little while ago, but I am sorry, if you think manufacturers project sales on what people say about their product, I can guarantee you that you are wrong, I would even bet they DO NOT EVEN LOOK AT THIS FORUM. Its all based on sales , how many units they ship out and how many get reordered , has nothing to do with what people say about them. The DEALERS are not raising their profit margin, NORINCO is raising the price to dealers, which trickles down to us having to pay more. But yeah, lets go hypothetical , lets say they sell one third what they do now, but we all talk about how great and awesome they are, they WOULD NOT raise the price. On the flip side, lets say they sold even more then they do now, and every single person on this forum bashed them and talked #### about them, they would assume that we are not part of their projected market that buys them, and would go right ahead and raise the price for people that ARE buying them.

In short, they look at the piece of the paper that says how many they sell and how quick.

BadAsMo said:
You guys gotta stop talkin about how cheap the Norks are and start complaining because they aren't $300. The dealers read these forums and every time someone mentions how cheap the Norks are they are reminded that they could and should raise the price and make more money.

On that note I am upset that I had to pay soooo much for a rifle that was only made in China. Those Norks are sure expensive. I wouldn't pay $500 that's for sure.
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Marstar brought in one C-Can of M305's in the Last year or was it even longer than that? They sold out in what, a month? They will not hesitate to raise their prices, if and when they bring more in. Sooner or later Factory 356? will run out of receivers, by the looks of some of Marstars shipment that may be happening now. Then there will be no more or they will start making more receivers, then the price will go up even more.
 
walleyed99 said:
Where did you find a "New" Springfield M1a for $1350 in Canada? I am sure I am not the only one interested in this info......
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I find they start at 1500...

If they increased the quality I would pay more if they don't then I buy another brand simple as that.

O Claven2 I have a M1 that is 7.62 Nato from the factory they were US Navy firearms. They're already out there. Use the same mblock clips ect.

Some of the price increases are currency exchange rates going up and down as well so you have to look at that for cost. Canada keeps dropping it's dollar to stay near par with the Usa if they didn't it would be allot cheaper.
 
BadAsMo said:
You guys gotta stop talkin about how cheap the Norks are and start complaining because they aren't $300. The dealers read these forums and every time someone mentions how cheap the Norks are they are reminded that they could and should raise the price and make more money.

On that note I am upset that I had to pay soooo much for a rifle that was only made in China. Those Norks are sure expensive. I wouldn't pay $500 that's for sure.
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Very very well said especially the part about dealers raising prices because people keep saying how cheap the Norks are. Some people really don't understand how business works.
 
If i can get a M25 M1A White Feather or a M21 M1A Supermatch SA, it would be awsome, those are the most accurate M1A from SA, tag price is high but it is more than candy, just thinking a rifle could be even more accurate than my NM M1A is quite exciting... JP.
 
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