50%-price-increased or doubled Norinco M305 VS Spring Field M1A
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LOL, H2O Man, up here in Canada we say "down south in the states"
This crack pot hasn't a clue about how a business is ran. Every business in the world sets the price as high as they think the market will tolerate.
The term is "Priced at what the market will bear" It's the reason a can of Coke is $1 in every convenience store in the country.
The term is "Priced at what the market will bear" It's the reason a can of Coke is $1 in every convenience store in the country.
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crackpot? So you think they base the price on a fraction of the people telling them how awesome it tastes?
They just over look how much they sell and how quick then how much it costs to make? all that, doesnt matter, they just check forums and hear how delicious their product is?
Terrible ####ing example too, cans of coke cost what they do because no one would drink coke if it cost more then other soft drinks, pop is all priced the same because only a number of companies own all the soft drinks, and if coke cost more then pepsi, a lot of people would just buy pepsi, it has NOTHING to do with what people say on forums, so the max they can do is the same as everyone else. And also, its not the convenient stores choice to sell it at a dollar, sure they can sell it cheaper and make less profit, or sell it for more and sell less of them, 1 dollar is the rate because its what everyone sells it for. So its the best profit margin to work off of.
Hence, the price of that rifle is going up for EVERY dealer, not just one, sure , accuse them of all coming together and agreeing on jacking the price up, but if that true, there will be hold outs selling them cheaper elsewhere, I am betting you wont find that anywhere.
And yes, you are correct, as high as the market will tolerate, they DO NOT base that number on what they read in forums, they base it how many, and how quick they sell. I will repeat, we could ALL talk about how ####ty Norinco is ( Like a lot of people already do) And they still would have raised prices, they dont sign on here, go "Oh look, they like us, they really like us, ignore the numbers of units sold and ordered, raise prices now~!" Yeah, sorry, it does not work like that. Sales show them all they need to know and what price they can put on it.
Now, I hope you meant to reply to the person I replied to, because if you really think a can coke of $1 because people on the internet say its "good" , then you sir are the crackpot that has no idea how a business is ran.
They just over look how much they sell and how quick then how much it costs to make? all that, doesnt matter, they just check forums and hear how delicious their product is?
Terrible ####ing example too, cans of coke cost what they do because no one would drink coke if it cost more then other soft drinks, pop is all priced the same because only a number of companies own all the soft drinks, and if coke cost more then pepsi, a lot of people would just buy pepsi, it has NOTHING to do with what people say on forums, so the max they can do is the same as everyone else. And also, its not the convenient stores choice to sell it at a dollar, sure they can sell it cheaper and make less profit, or sell it for more and sell less of them, 1 dollar is the rate because its what everyone sells it for. So its the best profit margin to work off of.
Hence, the price of that rifle is going up for EVERY dealer, not just one, sure , accuse them of all coming together and agreeing on jacking the price up, but if that true, there will be hold outs selling them cheaper elsewhere, I am betting you wont find that anywhere.
And yes, you are correct, as high as the market will tolerate, they DO NOT base that number on what they read in forums, they base it how many, and how quick they sell. I will repeat, we could ALL talk about how ####ty Norinco is ( Like a lot of people already do) And they still would have raised prices, they dont sign on here, go "Oh look, they like us, they really like us, ignore the numbers of units sold and ordered, raise prices now~!" Yeah, sorry, it does not work like that. Sales show them all they need to know and what price they can put on it.
Now, I hope you meant to reply to the person I replied to, because if you really think a can coke of $1 because people on the internet say its "good" , then you sir are the crackpot that has no idea how a business is ran.
What about the norinco ammo not being imported for the next time being for how long I don't know maybe forever. I'm more worried about that ? Also lever is not selling it for much more then let's say marstar a Christmas deal go look it up 35 bucks more .....
BCshooterFMJ
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The price of THAT rifle , says it right there in my quote you replied to. I guess you missed that
Tell me a store that sold the M305 for cheaper then 450 in the past year. Surplus rifles seem to differ in prices, again, awful example as they are not manufactured, they're stock piled, hence the difference in norincos SKS prices and SKS's general, seems like deals on large purchases can be made, like canam, they seem to do large purchases, looks like they moved A LOT of m305;s in a really short time, now down to 20, but that doesnt matter to norinco, what matters to them is what they read here right? Marstar too, the 75 dollar SKS, do you really think they paid the same as everywhere else for them? that said, there are rumors that the receivers for M305's were stock piled , and thats why we were getting them so cheap for so long. ( I have no idea of how true it is, but seems plausible)
But whatever, get together with your buddy, talk about how awful and ####ty guns are , hell, why stop there, lets all talk about how ####ty some ammo brands are like the cheap ones like MFS , why not Chevrolet too? They are sure to ignore actual sales and just drop prices based on hey read on the internet
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BCshooterFMJ
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For the time being, that will be the case, but they will find another courier eventually. They probably move a lot of product through Canada so who knows. If it affects their sales enough, then they will find a way. Or I guess according to these two guys, they will read the forums to see if they sell enough here
I beleive that all firearms are overpriced except for the milsurp. There is no way in hell that a mass produced hunk of plastic/wood and steel is worth in thousands of dollars especially considering that the technology is very old. I wonder how much the profit margin for each unit is...
Except materials are a small part of the production process. There are people involved too.
Now, these people want to be adequately paid.
The price of THAT rifle , says it right there in my quote you replied to. I guess you missed that
Surplus rifles seem to differ in prices, again, awful example as they are not manufactured, they're stock piled, hence the difference in norincos SKS prices and SKS's general, seems like deals on large purchases can be made, like canam, they seem to do large purchases, looks like they moved A LOT of m305;s in a really short time, now down to 20, but that doesnt matter to norinco, what matters to them is what they read here right? Marstar too, the 75 dollar SKS, do you really think they paid the same as everywhere else for them? that said, there are rumors that the receivers for M305's were stock piled , and thats why we were getting them so cheap for so long. ( I have no idea of how true it is, but seems plausible)
But whatever, get together with your buddy, talk about how awful and ####ty guns are , hell, why stop there, lets all talk about how ####ty some ammo brands are like the cheap ones like MFS , why not Chevrolet too? They are sure to ignore actual sales and just drop prices based on hey read on the internet
I believe the rumour about stockpiled receivers is a fact.
I recently sent my receiver number to Different to confirm its year of manufacture.
Turns out the receiver in my 09 Longy was made in 93 , so there must have been a pile of them somewhere.
BCshooterFMJ
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Oh I believe it, to further it, the rumor is "They are starting to run out" I should have added that,
I certainly hope that we'll have access to reasonably priced M305s for some time to come if at all possible.
While I might be covered, at the current prices or perhaps somewhere between $500-600 they'd still provide one of the best ways to introduce new shooters into disciplines like Service Rifle, target shooting, tweaking their rifles and big game hunting with a non-restricted semi-auto. If the price increase isn't too huge and comes with some assurances of better quality control, I think that they'll continue to attract a following.
While I might be covered, at the current prices or perhaps somewhere between $500-600 they'd still provide one of the best ways to introduce new shooters into disciplines like Service Rifle, target shooting, tweaking their rifles and big game hunting with a non-restricted semi-auto. If the price increase isn't too huge and comes with some assurances of better quality control, I think that they'll continue to attract a following.
