.50 Range Suggestions Ontario

Musky Hunter said:
none of the private ranges in Ont....
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More misinformation on the internet.....
Sure you'd like to have a long range to test out a .50, but last time I asked .50 was perfectly 'legal' to shoot at my ontario outdoor club... The rifle range is only 100 yards or so, but as long as you hit the burm what's the problem...
Any other center fire round if sent over the burm could possibly land on someones property.
 
667 said:
More misinformation on the internet.....
Sure you'd like to have a long range to test out a .50, but last time I asked .50 was perfectly 'legal' to shoot at my ontario outdoor club... The rifle range is only 100 yards or so, but as long as you hit the burm what's the problem...
Any other center fire round if sent over the burm could possibly land on someones property.
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Not sure about that...
I doubt if many ranges will allow it. They chew up a lot of property when they hit. I do know all DND ranges have a danger/safety template that is in most cases smaller then what the .50 can do. And each DND range has cailber restrictions.
Of course we are talking about the .50BMG round here, no to be confused with a .50 cal muzzle loader or .50 cal black powder cartridge. The only thing they share with the .50 BMG is bullet dia.
 
maynard said:
Not sure about that...
I doubt if many ranges will allow it. They chew up a lot of property when they hit. I do know all DND ranges have a danger/safety template that is in most cases smaller then what the .50 can do. And each DND range has cailber restrictions.
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Yeah.. true, but DND ranges do not fall under the jurisdiction of the CFO.
 
tiriaq said:
As far as the comment about 2000-3500m shooting goes, use a straight road and your car's odometer to see what that sort of distance looks like.
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I'm well aware of what 3 KM "looks like". If I remeber correctly it's "one hell of a long way" :D

tiriaq said:
Just about impossible to see a target, let alone observe the reslults of the shot. And you need to know the exact distance, and have very sophisticated range tables or a hand held computer to generate elevations and wind corrections.
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As far as range and elevations, that's what the spotter is for. LOL

I get it, I get it. I repsect everyone telling me it's a niche and it will be expensive and it will next to impossible to really let the gun out. And if I have to fly to Alberta to do it, even better.

I want a challenge, and I don't need folks telling me why I can't do it, I need people telling me where I CAN do it.

No offense, but I'm a grown man and can judge what my commitment level is just about as well as the next guy. I have no trouble spending money (an affliction I am sure I share with just about everyone else on this board) on the appropriate optics, ballistics computers etc.

I've tried .308, and several other calibers. I have not tried .50 as of yet. But there are several reasons I want to try ultra long range shooting that don't have anything to with my "lack of knowledge" about the sport. Just one being that I am a big guy and really want a big gun. SO what if I have to use 4X8 sheets of ply as targets?


Thanks to everyone who offered info and opinion.

I still feel like buying a non restricted .50 of some vintage. I am sure I can find a safe place to dischage it in Ontario if I look hard enough.

Sometimes the challenges in gun ownership are not just at the range eh? LOL
 
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Richard338 said:
I'll be shooting one tomorrow! Only at 560 yards though... (private property)
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GREEN WITH ENVY..

Private property is most likely the easiest route. I have a couple of options I can leverage, they just need to be properly scouted and cleared.
 
Blackthorne said:
I'm well aware of what 3 KM "looks like". If I remeber correctly it's "one hell of a long way" :D



As far as range and elevations, that's what the spotter is for. LOL

I get it, I get it. I repsect everyone telling me it's a niche and it will be expensive and it will next to impossible to really let the gun out. And if I have to fly to Alberta to do it, even better.

I want a challenge, and I don't need folks telling me why I can't do it, I need people telling me where I CAN do it.

No offense, but I'm a grown man and can judge what my commitment level is just about as well as the next guy. I have no trouble spending money (an affliction I am sure I share with just about everyone else on this board) on the appropriate optics, ballistics computers etc.

I've tried .308, and several other calibers. I have not tried .50 as of yet. But there are several reasons I want to try ultra long range shooting that don't have anything to with my "lack of knowledge" about the sport. Just one being that I am a big guy and really want a big gun. SO what if I have to use 4X8 sheets of ply as targets?


Thanks to everyone who offered info and opinion.

I still feel like buying a non restricted .50 of some vintage. I am sure I can find a safe place to dischage it in Ontario if I look hard enough.

Sometimes the challenges in gun ownership are not just at the range eh? LOL
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If you want a challange why not try 900 meters with a 22lr?
Now THAT would be something to see.
I dont know anyone that would be willing to be just a spotter for someone to toy around with their new toy.

Most of the guys with .50 bmg have it only for the fact of they own a .50 bmg gun. No one at the long range shoots uses a .50 it seems 6br or 338 lupa are the rounds of choice for long range. (but I could be mistaken).

The biggest reason I wouldnt get a .50 is the cost of the gun, the ammo, and while I am sure you could shoot gophers with it I dont think land owners would like it, and at a couple bucks a shot the costs will add up fast.

But good luck to ya :)
 
"...could possibly land on someones property..." Where else would it land?
As mentioned, there are no ranges in Ontario longer than 1,000 yards and they're CF ranges. Last I heard you could join the Borden Rod and Gun club without being in the CF. Don't know how often they use Mons, but doing on base conservation work will get you into the draw for the shotguns only on base deer season.
If you shoot out on to Lake Simcoe, you will very likely be arrested. Ice fishermen and snowmobiles in winter and hordes of boaters in summer. Anywhere else and you had better be very sure of your back stop and what's behind it.
 
Jeff000 said:
I dont know anyone that would be willing to be just a spotter for someone to toy around with their new toy.
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Spotters and Shooters change places. And I do know someone who would love to tag along :D

sunray said:
If you shoot out on to Lake Simcoe, you will very likely be arrested. Ice fishermen and snowmobiles in winter and hordes of boaters in summer.
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Uhhh yah...I kind of thought that post was in jest??? Shooting over ice is the same as shooting over water when it comes to skip and fragmentation if I remember correctly? ;) I'm pretty sure you take any rifle out on Lake Simcoe and you will eventually get your ass handed to you.....


The private land I would be using would be very large and, as I mentioned, would be properly scouted and safetied prior to firing.

Easy there guys, I won't go running around with my shiny new next to useless BIG GUN endangering the sport in Ontario. I'm a big boy now.

As far as 22LR at 600+. Not interested. Just doesn't float my boat.

Cost...yah...$7 a round is steep, but it'll really make you consider the shot now won't it.

$6000 for a rifle, I have a friend that has 5 worth twice that. I only want one LOL


Seriously...thanks to eveyone for the input, I REALLY appreciate it. There is a TON of experience here and I am honored to be able to tap into it.
 
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Blackthorne, if you really want the damn thing, then buy it. Everyone told my friend not to get it, but he did, and he loves it. I just have one piece of advice, buy a good accurate single-shot. Shooting 2MOA is a waste of time at long range. You will only save a couple thou at first by getting a Barrett or some other cheap version. A single shot custom should pound them in at long range.
 
What's the big deal ? So it's a .50BMG... It's just a center fire cartridge. A powerfull one, but....

Hell... "if" you wanted to you could go hunt moose with one....
And as always... no matter where you shoot, be sure of what lies beyond your target
:)
 
sunray said:
If you shoot out on to Lake Simcoe, you will very likely be arrested. Ice fishermen and snowmobiles in winter and hordes of boaters in summer. Anywhere else and you had better be very sure of your back stop and what's behind it.
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Is it possible you are the only one who didn't clue in that the post was in jest?
 
Richard338 said:
Blackthorne, if you really want the damn thing, then buy it. Everyone told my friend not to get it, but he did, and he loves it. I just have one piece of advice, buy a good accurate single-shot. Shooting 2MOA is a waste of time at long range. You will only save a couple thou at first by getting a Barrett or some other cheap version. A single shot custom should pound them in at long range.
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LOL...you are sooo right. I just need to get it out of my sysytem and go put my damn money down LMAO.

I also agree with the single shot idea. Most of the customs I inquired about getting built here in Canada were bolt action singles. I don't think I WANT to fire a 50 one after the other. Be pretty rough controlling that second and third round LOL

mbessey said:
is somone in canada selling a Barrett .50 or an AR 50?? because as far as i can tell thats the only way your going to get one.
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Your pretty much screwed for Barrett, I've been told they're prohib, and the US won't export them.

You can however, get one custom made here. And European countries will still export them to Canada, so you can get a Steyr sent over for about the asme price as a custom.

Williams (where my wife buys her pistols) is a Steyrs dealer (through Wolverine) and has sold "two or three" over the past year.
 
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I am lucky in that sense. My uncle's family are one of Alberta's biggest cattle ranchers.

He has section after section of pristene land. Great for camping shooting anything.
 
One big solution:

1)Try a 50 somewhere, somehow. (The fun shoot at Genessee in August has a hands on period for poeple that want to try them.)
2)Now you are hooked so buy a 50. They are not cheap - but they should not be.
3)The more 50 shooters there are the more demand/availbility for 1000+ yard ranges and events for this and these types of firearms will appear.

Oh yeah - remember that pretty much all of the 50bmg rifles available to us are non-restricted, even a couple models of the Barrets. You do not have to shoot them on a range. If you have landowner permission it is as legal as your 10/22 (Just use a little more respect with the capable ranges of the 50cal).
 
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