500 A-Square range report

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OK, so a while back I acquired an A-Square Hannibal. These rifles are produced by A-square from M-1917 actions, and are chambered in most cartridges up to the 577 Tyrannosaur. This is an African dangerous game gun.

Mine is in 500 A-Square. The workmanship on this rifle is remarkable. The metal is finished in some sort of matte finish, looks like maybe gunkote. The gun has three massive recoil lugs, and is bedded into the stock along its full length

The stock itself is a work of art, and is quite substantial, and has two metal crosspieces to re-inforce it. Between those and the full length bedding, this stock won't crack. The footprint is very wide on your shoulder, which makes it somewhat less of a traumatic event to pull the trigger.

The trigger is a Timney trigger, set at about 4 lbs. The rifle retains the M1917's ####-on-close functionality, and has been tuned & timed to provide a VERY smooth operation. It retains the original p14 safety, which is excellent, and as you can see, the dog-leg bolt handle has been replaced by an extra long straight handle.

As you'd expect from a DG rifle, it feeds flawlessly. It holds 3 rounds in the mag and one in the chamber.

On top is a Leupold LER 2x scope in QR rings. Remove the scope (which takes about 2 seconds), and there is an excellent express-style open sight, graduated at 100,200 and 300 yards, regulated for the 600 grain RN at ~2450 fps.

It's got a 24" barrel, and weight around 14.5 lbs altogether. There are no mercury tubes or weights added to the stock, and no wussy brake or porting.

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The rifle came with 4 boxes of brass, which is headstamped '460 weatherby.' The brass is necked up to .510, and is fireformed to an 'improved' configuration with a shorter neck, steeper shoulder and slightly less taper after the first firing.
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Dies came from ch4d, and only took about a week and a half to come in after I called and ordered them. CH had dies IN STOCK, and at less than half the price dies from the RCBS custom shop - never mind the 6 month turnaround for custom dies.
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I loaded up a handful of the 600 grain monolithic solids over 107 and 117 grains of 4064 (a-square's max load), as well as a few hard cast lead bullets from MT Chambers. These were cast as 685 grain, but as they're a high-tin alloy, they only weighed in at 600 grains. I loaded these up at 85, 90 and 95 grains of 4064. At 95 grains, I did start to get a little leading near the muzzle. No attempt was made to find the most accurate load, and I didn't have my chrony with me.
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A 600 grain A-square monolithic brass solid.
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Loaded 500 next to a 458 win mag, a 45-70 and a 30-06
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Recoil, as you might imagine, was brisk. Along with my crony, I'd left my PAST pad at home. Firing a full house load was akin to getting punched in the shoulder. By a brontosaurus. OK, so that's a bit of an exaggeration, recoil wasn't THAT bad, though I found it's best to clench your jaw otherwise you might chip a tooth or bite your tongue.

A few shots with this cannon brought some curious shooters over from the other range to see what the hell was making all the racket. A shooter with a 300 win mag and a BOSS didn't even do THAT.

The first time I had this gun to the range, I managed to nail the 18" gong at the 200 yard range. There was absolutely no doubt on anyone's mind whatsoever that the gong had been hit; a 50lb chunk of metal MOVES when hit by this thing. It moves so good it breaks the ropes hanging it up :D
 
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ya just had to post this didn't ya!?! have to take the laptop apart to dry it out from the drool!! maybe someday I could give her a go?
I have piece of wood coming from crusher on AR to turn my P14 into something similar...just not sure of the caliber. a couple years ago Dan Belisle sent me a cd with some of his toys...beauties!
is she still for sale, prosper? wish I could afford her..sure is purrty!!

LeRoy
 
She's only for sale if I can find one in 585 Nyati or 577 Tyrannosaur :D

I suppose I have a thing for P-14's, one day I'll do a report on my 338WM
 
Nice report, but what's up with the little red X's? :(
I dunno, people are getting the pics:
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Yeah, I was just playing with the camera and Photoshop a bit. I want to re-shoot some of those pics, though, a cotton sheet doesn't do as well as a bright piece o paper. And a tripod, fill flash (aim flash at the roof), and I can do better on those.

As it was, I shot most of them against a white sheet, no macro, and push processed them in photoshop; basically adjusting the white level to clip out the white sheet, then fixing the levels on the object. Not the best way to go about it, but my camera DOES give me 14 bits of range to play with (JPG's are 8-bit, so you can get away with futzing with the levels and clipping them a bit)
 
Art Alphin's gunsmith built some very nice rifles. I met Art a couple of times when I was working in Kentucky, got the tour of his shop (this was before all his troubles with the BATF), nice guy I thought. I've probably bought a half dozen copies of his loading manual as gifts for people, it's that good. The company is still in business, his 'smith (I just can't recall his name) bought him out, and kept Art on as a consultant, but I think thats gone by the wayside now too. In any case, a very nice gun Prosper, you'll have to bring to Genesee one of these days and let the boys have a turn. - dan
 
Beautiful, what a beautiful work of art. Who did the chamber work, and installed the sights on the barrel? (PM me if you want)
I noticed that most people leave it as COC, and state that it is more reliable? Is it true? I've only put a conversion kit on one M17.

Great project on a great action!
 
this is a semi-custom production rifle, all work was done at the factory by a-square.

I put a #### on open kit on my 338 p-14, as well as a trigger upgrade and speedlock by dayton traistar. I think I may have to get a titanium lightweight firing pin now, I'm getting the occasional FTF since putting the kit on. Perhaps simply lightening the factory pin would be sufficient as well; the mainspring is FAR heavier than the factory one, so it should be capable of getting the job done.

I prefer #### on open, although a lot of dangerous game rifles are still #### on close, so I assume there's a good reason for it
 
What would scare me more would be a hangfire :)

Yeah, that would definitely be a thinker. I guess you'd learn a bit of patience with a FTF in one of those. I'd probably give it about 5 minutes lol

I really need to find one of these for sale. Thanks for sharing the experience.
 
Kid brother made my P14 into a 404 Jeffery and its an awesome shooter.
A bit over 10 lbs makes it very comfortable to shoot although not the lightest rifle to pack...
 
Super nice gun. Don't ever offer it to me to shoot tho, unless you wanna see a skinny guy on the ground with his glasses askew, a shocked expression, madly flailing to keep a) first and foremost the gun from hitting the ground and b) his dignity. 8D
 
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