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Not sure what you're looking at but I don't think it's regarding re-loading firearms cartridges .. There was a "push" a while back from NRCAN to cripple our re-loading abilities but that was quashed as no one could find any reason for it .. as in there haven't been any issues to date so why are changes required? Black powder is a little different than the the propellants used for other re-loading endeavours and as such has more specific laws around how much you can have and where etc.

In any event, pretty much common sense most of it .. isn't it?
 
I don't think it's that bad yet.

I have known people who had their homes searched by police over firearms related issues, and at no point were NRCAN regulation issues raised or charged in relation to the ammo or reloading components present.

That said I'm sure everyone on here knows and follows NRCANS's regs...
 
Glockenshpiel said:
Reading explosives regulations:



The combination of bolded items can be very hard to achieve I think.
2kg of powder is just over 4 lb if I am not mistaken. That's 1-2 bottles of powder and reloaders usually have 4-5 brands on hand.
2kg of primers is about 4 cases or 4000.
So in reality if one reloads at home they can't have more than 1 bottle of powder and 2 cases of primers there or else...

Also your wife can't be cooking dinner as you reload and you must kick out your children for fear of them starting some 'activity'.

Is this something new or it's been like that for a long time? I am in for a rude awakening.
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That is what you can have available on your reloading bench while loading.

This is Storage:
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10 kg = 22 lbs

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NO limit on primers
 
Glockenshpiel said:
The combination of bolded items can be very hard to achieve I think.
2kg of powder is just over 4 lb if I am not mistaken. That's 1-2 bottles of powder and reloaders usually have 4-5 brands on hand.
2kg of primers is about 4 cases or 4000.
So in reality if one reloads at home they can't have more than 1 bottle of powder and 2 cases of primers there or else...

Also your wife can't be cooking dinner as you reload and you must kick out your children for fear of them starting some 'activity'.

Is this something new or it's been like that for a long time? I am in for a rude awakening.
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Look... If you followed every bull#### rule and regulation dictated by "the man"
all you'd be able to do is sit quietly in a chair in the middle of an empty room. Even then I'm sure there's some obscure regulation you're in breach of.
Use some common sense and live life without worrying wether or not NRCAN is gonna kick in your door.. They shouldn't know you exist.

I'll say this... And I'm sure some will agree...

The two full 20lb BBQ propane tanks sitting in my garage are more of a hazard than all the powder, primers and loaded ammo in my man-cave.
 
667 said:
The two full 20lb BBQ propane tanks sitting in my garage are more of a hazard than all the powder, primers and loaded ammo in my man-cave.
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Or the 40 gal water tank that is a ticking time bomb in most people's houses...
Or the 3/4" Natural Gas line feeding into the flame throwing furnace...
or the thousands of pounds of highly combustible petroleum based products in our homes...or...;)
 
My truck has a full tank of premium right now. That would most certainly take out my garage and most of the windows on the block. Smokeless powder is considered a propellant,Not an explosive.
 
starblanket said:
Smokeless powder is considered a propellant,Not an explosive.
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Not in the NRCAN Explosives Regulations.

PART I
CLASSIFICATION​

6. Explosives are divided into seven classes, as follows:
Class 1. — Gunpowder.
Class 2. — Nitrate Mixture.
Class 3. — Nitro-compound.
Class 4. — Chlorate Mixture.
Class 5. — Fulminate.
Class 6. — Ammunition.
Class 7. — Firework.
7. When an explosive falls within the description of more than one class it shall be deemed to belong exclusively to the class with the highest number.
Class 1 — Gunpowder Class​


8. (1) The gunpowder class includes
(a) the explosive ordinarily called gunpowder;
(b) preparations formed by the mechanical mixture of a nitrate with any form of carbon or with any carbonaceous substance not possessed of explosive properties, whether or not the preparation contains sulphur, and whether or not the preparation is mechanically mixed with any other non-explosive substance; and
(c) explosives containing a perchlorate that are not included in Classes 2, 3, 4 or 5.

(2) The explosive described in paragraph (1)(a) shall form a subclass of the gunpowder class to be known as Division 1 of that class and the explosives described in paragraphs (1)(b) and (c) shall form a subclass of the gunpowder class to be known as Division 2.
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http://www.canlii.org/en/ca/laws/regu/crc-c-599/latest/crc-c-599.html#PART_I_CLASSIFICATION_18987

Mark
 
Glockenshpiel said:
Well, you are quoting storage of explosives, which is a different ball game.
I quoted from Explosives Regulations of the Explosives Act: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cr/C.R.C.-c.599/bo-ga:1_III/en what specifically applies to loading of the cartridges by individual outside of a licensed facility, i.e. in our homes.
Where it says 'place' it means a residential or industrial unit. It nowhere mentions reloading bench or any other kind of furniture, so in reality if they want to charge one with explosives violations, that amount will be considered if found in one's house. That's the way I am reading that paragraph: if there is more than 2 kg of any explosive in the place, or anyone has any matches or lighters, or anyone conducts any other kind of activity (i.e. watching TV or cooking) then person is in violation of ER of EA. Also the place cannot be gas or oil heated needless to say there can't be a wood stove in there. To sum it up, one can't reload ammunition in one's home under these regulations. We are SOL.
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I was quoting the ERD Regs ulletin 8 - Propellant Explosives which also contain the following:
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Seeing as it has the same numbers you posted and specifically mentions a that "Place" means Bench.
The regs you posted are, as I pointed out earlier, for your bench.
All else falls under the storage regs I posted.

This is all from a document called: Bulletin 8 - Propellant Explosives
that was sent to me by NRCAN, ERD section in April 2008 when I inquired about the regs for sale of powder and primers.
 
You guys are wimps! :p In my garage I have primers, 7lbs of powder ( I am low.), two propane tanks, 10 cans of oil paint, a parts washer full of solvent, 200 lb of lead, a generator with 2gal of gas, a face cord of wood & a woodstove.
 
Place in the listed document means the loading bench. So if hand loading at your bench you shouldn't be cooking breakfast on the same bench.

The max for storage still is 10kg . Unless you have an out building away from your home. That's how I read it.

I'm more worried about propane BBQ than the reloading. I've seen more fires from them than the other. That and wood burning fireplaces.
 
8. (1) The gunpowder class includes
(a) the explosive ordinarily called gunpowder;
(b) preparations formed by the mechanical mixture of a nitrate with any form of carbon or with any carbonaceous substance not possessed of explosive properties, whether or not the preparation contains sulphur, and whether or not the preparation is mechanically mixed with any other non-explosive substance; and
(c) explosives containing a perchlorate that are not included in Classes 2, 3, 4 or 5.

The "smokeless powder" we use today is based on nitrocellulose. It is not in the "gunpowder" classification. What is commonly called "gunpowder" is another idiom.

While it is a nitrate, smokeless powder is also coated to control the burn, therefore should not be considered an explosive.
 
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