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- Thread starter Glockenshpiel
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10kg in your house, 75kg in a magazine, "reasonable" number of primers. Unless they have changed the laws recently, that's what you're allowed to have. - dan
Gunnerlove
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I thought that was common sense safety.
Do you mean while you are in the process of reloading? I don't understand what your question is. The amounts of gunpowder I stated are what you are allowed to have. Unless you are in the business of reloading that does not change. - dan
Glockenshpiel,
Here is my humble opinion for what it is worth.
I believe that government rules and regulations in general have become way too complicated , onerous, and nebulous for law enforcers to enforce as the enforcers themselves are every bit as confused as we may be.
How many dozens of times have we seen debates here on Gunnutz re interpretations of rules, only to have a member call the RCMP, as an example, and find out the people they were trying to extract correct information from were even more confused.
What about the recent fiasco with the 25 round magazines for the S&W 15-22. Hundreds, if not thousands, of these mags were LEGALLY bought by good law-abiding folks, only to discover that with the stroke of an RCMP pen, the mags have become prohibited. Now those same law-abiding folks are instant criminals and could potentially face jail sentences. Some of these folks are not even aware of these changes, as the RCMP or CFOs have not even sent them letters. Would these folks, unaware that they had to turn in mags that were legally bought ,be charged. I do not believe they would, if they acted in good faith.
At the end of the day, common sense must rule the day and no government has the political will to attempt to turn a law-abider into an instant criminal because no one could interpret or understand complex and confusing laws. What has happened to good old common sense.
As a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen, I for one will conduct myself in a reasonable fashion and obey the laws to the very best of my ability. If I have the legal ability to purchase 7 pounds of powder or 1000 primers, I refuse to look over my shoulder and live in fear that what I did is suddenly illegal.
Despite all attempts by government and the anti-gun lobby to take away our rights over the DECADES, we still have our firearms.
This endless debate and constantly living in fear and defeatist attitudes is a monumental waste of time. i would rather spend my time enjoying my rights , and I am of the profound belief that I will enjoy these rights for the rest of my life and so will all of us law-abiders.
Here is my humble opinion for what it is worth.
I believe that government rules and regulations in general have become way too complicated , onerous, and nebulous for law enforcers to enforce as the enforcers themselves are every bit as confused as we may be.
How many dozens of times have we seen debates here on Gunnutz re interpretations of rules, only to have a member call the RCMP, as an example, and find out the people they were trying to extract correct information from were even more confused.
What about the recent fiasco with the 25 round magazines for the S&W 15-22. Hundreds, if not thousands, of these mags were LEGALLY bought by good law-abiding folks, only to discover that with the stroke of an RCMP pen, the mags have become prohibited. Now those same law-abiding folks are instant criminals and could potentially face jail sentences. Some of these folks are not even aware of these changes, as the RCMP or CFOs have not even sent them letters. Would these folks, unaware that they had to turn in mags that were legally bought ,be charged. I do not believe they would, if they acted in good faith.
At the end of the day, common sense must rule the day and no government has the political will to attempt to turn a law-abider into an instant criminal because no one could interpret or understand complex and confusing laws. What has happened to good old common sense.
As a tax-paying, law-abiding citizen, I for one will conduct myself in a reasonable fashion and obey the laws to the very best of my ability. If I have the legal ability to purchase 7 pounds of powder or 1000 primers, I refuse to look over my shoulder and live in fear that what I did is suddenly illegal.
Despite all attempts by government and the anti-gun lobby to take away our rights over the DECADES, we still have our firearms.
This endless debate and constantly living in fear and defeatist attitudes is a monumental waste of time. i would rather spend my time enjoying my rights , and I am of the profound belief that I will enjoy these rights for the rest of my life and so will all of us law-abiders.
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I believe the "remove all but 2kg from the place of reloading refers to your bench. - dan
Dude at this point i would advise you to just stay away from reloading. Apparently it's just to complicated. If you want to regulate yourself out of a hobby it's working.
Buy the stuff you need and reload.
Glockenshpeil, unfortunately you have quoted the regulations for the manufacture of "safety cartridges" not small arms ammunition. Been done here before.
Handloaders are only inconveinienced by the propellant storage requirements of a substantial magazine, which will surely one day result in a tragedy, since those amongst us who cannot read or think will believe that means a tightly sealed metal container. In the event of fire, powder stored in a tightly sealed metal container will possibly contribute to a progressive deflagration, which could hurt someone. Powder stored on a shelf in its original containers will simply burn, once heated to its iginition point. No human will be alive in the vicinity of the powder when it reaches ignition temperatures, as those temperatures are above what the best turned out FF can withstand.
Yes, Explosives Branch is trying to make life miserable for gun owners. Were one cynical, one might suggest they deliberately require a "magazine" in the expectation some unthinking fool will store his ammo in a big, tightly locked ammo box, and when it does eventually cook off, it will deflagrate and hurt someone. Then the clamor for stricter controls ...
Handloaders are only inconveinienced by the propellant storage requirements of a substantial magazine, which will surely one day result in a tragedy, since those amongst us who cannot read or think will believe that means a tightly sealed metal container. In the event of fire, powder stored in a tightly sealed metal container will possibly contribute to a progressive deflagration, which could hurt someone. Powder stored on a shelf in its original containers will simply burn, once heated to its iginition point. No human will be alive in the vicinity of the powder when it reaches ignition temperatures, as those temperatures are above what the best turned out FF can withstand.
Yes, Explosives Branch is trying to make life miserable for gun owners. Were one cynical, one might suggest they deliberately require a "magazine" in the expectation some unthinking fool will store his ammo in a big, tightly locked ammo box, and when it does eventually cook off, it will deflagrate and hurt someone. Then the clamor for stricter controls ...
ninepointer
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- Central Ontario
Glocken,
Perhaps this will help ease your mind...
http://www.nfa.ca/nrcan-handloading-explosives-act
Perhaps this will help ease your mind...
http://www.nfa.ca/nrcan-handloading-explosives-act
When they say, "licensed factory", wouldn't they be meaning the part where the powder is run to where the cases are filled? To run the machinery profitably, they would have hundreds of pounds to minimize re-filling the powder measure. But I imagine a factory still has their own version of a powder magazine for the storage of powder till it is needed.
So, if I am interpreting it right, it is the same as how we can have the 2kg of powder on the bench, but still have the other 8kg away from the bench in its storage container. And have another 65kg in an out building that is away from the house to total up to the 75kg max.
Or am I just out to lunch?
So, if I am interpreting it right, it is the same as how we can have the 2kg of powder on the bench, but still have the other 8kg away from the bench in its storage container. And have another 65kg in an out building that is away from the house to total up to the 75kg max.
Or am I just out to lunch?
outoftowner
Regular
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- Medicine Hat, AB
How about that regulation does not apply to us (which has been stated multiple times throughout this thread) so there is no need to comply with it.
This is not the best way to make friends on the internet....
We're not loading ammunition, we're reloading ammunition. Different animal. - dan
