.577 snider
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antiqueguy
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some wil chamber 24ga plastic without any work some will need brass formed and then fire formed. you will need proper sized bullets most of the sniders like .590 or .595 bullets cast soft. of course snider is a black powder only action they tend to turn into auto ejectors if any gases get under the breech block. rusty wood has 24ga brass you will most likely need lee dies for forming these are 1 1/4 dies and need a big press but once cases are fire formed they shouldn't need to be resized.
antiqueguy
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that's a big no no a nitro for black load may work in a mk 3 but I would not use it goex is easy to come by for the model part or if needed pyrodex
antiqueguy
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well when you consider the fact that most snider ontery than the mk3 were built with p1853 Enfield rifled muskets and how weak of an action the snider really is its not really worth experimenting if it was a martini mk3 or 4 I wouldn't hesitate a nitro for black load but the snider is not something I or many other snider shooters would shoot smokeless out of
CoW isn't a very good source for loading data.
Hey thanks guys. Once I “find” some cases to load, I will then re-read the above posts. I don’t have a recipe yet, because I don’t have anything to load a recipe into. Thus the reason for the OP.
But rest assured if you good people have the patience to help out when the time comes I’ll probably ask.
But for now still looking for components.
But rest assured if you good people have the patience to help out when the time comes I’ll probably ask.
But for now still looking for components.
antiqueguy
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the recipe is pretty easy since its black powder you should be using but around 75gr of fg or ffg should get you started and work up or down till accuracy improves a .600 round ball can be used if its cast in pure lead track of the wolf also has custom lee molds for a .595 round ball. I think jethunter also cast snider bullets
antiqueguy
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the groove of these rifles are generous got to remember most of them are converted front stuffers and needed a bullet that was easy to load with a grease grove bullet in a cartridge you want something slightly bigger than grove diameter the original snider ammo went through many changes during the rifles use. and don't forget they used line battle tactics back in those days so if it could hit a man size target it was good enough. as always slug you're bore but I can almost guarantee .585 or bigger with a grease grove bullet. also to add 3 groove barrels are 1 in 78 twist and do short conicals and round balls where a 5 groove barrel has 1 in 48 twist and will stabilize just about anything
You might glean some useful information from the website of Track of The Wolf. They list new cases (US $4.09 per case) but not for export out of U.S.A., and they are out of stock anyway. They show a brief instruction on loading round ball in these cases and list some appropriate bullets, bullet molds, dies.
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x2 Martyn is great to deal with. He will sell you lots of 25 casings that have been trimmed to length and sized. He also sells .577/450 Martini–Henry. You can find him on facebook or the British Militaria Forum.
If you find 24 ga plastic hulls from Ballisticproducts(currently out of stock), cutting them short(about 1.7"), and skiving the mouth may allow an oversize bullet(app .590), and consider using a paper tube liner so that black powder won't melt thru the plastic first load.
If anyone is looking for the Dies for a Snider, I still have two sets. I picked up 3 sets in an auction a few years back. I can send photos. Sold one set already, still hanging onto the others. (It is my one and only sale on EE, so I have a perfect rating..lol)
