6-.284 build ?

So let's get this straight, a guy posts a question about building a 6/284 on a short action or should he build it on a long action and now you clowns have now hijacked his thread so it's now about overbore formulas and whether it's a barrel burner or not. At what point did he ask about those topics? How about either answer his question or start your own thread about stuff not relevant to this topic.:jerkit:
 
When he comes back on asking why his 6x284 barrel only lasted 500 accurate rounds then he'll know.


Oh by the way, check the post right under his....yeah post #2....for the answer to his question.
Less name calling,more conversation.
 
Obtunded said:
Ron, He is talking about the 6mm variant, not the 6.5, so it will be even worse.
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oops... somehow I just assumed 6.5 because hardly anyone does a 6x284... Yeah it will be hard on barrels, but some accept that as part of the territory of having an overbore wildcat.
 
It's all relevant, it's just how much you want to take out of what's posted. If someone wants to build a 6-284 he should be aware of the drawbacks and he should be aware of the options once the barrel goes away. There's a lot of variables and there is no reason not to discuss right here. I shoot a 6-284 and I'm prepared to put another tube on it when the time comes but if I can just set it back for a couple hundred bucks and chamber for something more mild that shoots minute of gopher I'm more than willing to listen to other opinions and I have no problem with theories and formulas.
 
All the "extra" info is what makes a great thread.

Most of the really cool or technical stuff I have learned on CGN was NOT due to questions being directly answered but from the discussions that arise from a base question.
 
bedrock said:
It's all relevant, it's just how much you want to take out of what's posted. If someone wants to build a 6-284 he should be aware of the drawbacks and he should be aware of the options once the barrel goes away. There's a lot of variables and there is no reason not to discuss right here. I shoot a 6-284 and I'm prepared to put another tube on it when the time comes but if I can just set it back for a couple hundred bucks and chamber for something more mild that shoots minute of gopher I'm more than willing to listen to other opinions and I have no problem with theories and formulas.
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There is no reason not to set it back to the same 6-284 chamber and go for more. Barrels go south right at the throat first. Just be sure to order a barrel profile with enough room on the shank and don't cut the barrel any shorter than you have to. With a 6-284 it will use all the barrel length you throw at it -- up to 32". Going to the same cartridge makes sense especially if you have bought the reamer, and obviously have all the reloading equipment for it. You may have to tweak the loads a little with the slightly shorter barrel, but not much. Should be able to shoot best accuracy right at the get go.
 
I've got a 6mm AI built on a Rem 700 S/A...its a 12 twist so I have to stay closer to the small end of bullet weight, but it feeds and ejects a 69gr High BC Berger bullet with coal of 3.000" quite well. (I do have a Score-Hi follower installed)

I researched the 6AI and the 6-284 both long and hard before I built...looking for a hot-rod coyote rifle. I felt the 6AI appeared to be a bit better with regards to smaller bullets then the 6/284.

However, to do it again (next time) I'll be going with a 8 twist.

I've come to realize shooting coyotes at 600+ yards requires more ballistic coefficient then it does velocity. IMO
 
I don't own the 6-284 reamer that was used for my barrel but I can buy it anytime I want. It will be interesting to see how much I will lose in the throat when it does get to that 5-6 hundred range. I am a long way from that and now that I'm putting together a couple 6BR's I may never have to worry about. I have enough meat at the breech end to do pretty much whatever I want. The 6BR reamer is mine so you never know if I decide not to stay with the 6-284 and I thought the barrel would have a good second life as a 6BR I could end up with 3 of them.
 
Interesting that some of "the old standbys" are up in the overbore range and some I would have thought to be higher are middle of the pack.
 
I have a 6mmAI and with a Wyatts extended box I can JUST get it to feed through a SA with the 87Vmax. I had the reamer ground with the 87 Vmax, wyatts box, and short action in mind. I just looked a 6.5x284 case and looks like an 87 Vmax would be the max lenght bullet out of this case to feed from the SA if you want the bullet base above the shoulder/neck junction.

With either the 6mmAI or the 6x284 if you want to mag feed 105's and not have the bullet below the shoulder/neck junction it would definately be a long action build.
 
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