6.5-284 winchester?
- Thread starter Maxx
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Neat cartridge abit hard on barrels however. Has done some amazing 1000 yard work over the last few years, 140gr bullets seem to work best, and it kills things DEAD
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
My son absolutely loves his!
it is a super accurate rifle
Cat
it is a super accurate rifle
Cat
Mystic Precision
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- Summerland, BC
Nice cartridge and a proven long range performer. However, unless you plan on shooting game beyond 400yds, go with the 260rem. Will be easier to feed and equally effective on game.
140gr are the best choice and I love the SST's.
Also, the carbon fibre barrels are not lighter then a full steel barrel. In fact, a thin contour steel barrel is lighter. As to the whole accuracy thing, bunk.
I have and have had many hunting rifles with thin barrels that were consistent cold barrel performers way out to 900yds. They may not be as good if you planned on shooting more then a mag full at a time, but that would not be hunting.
I looked into the carbon barrels when they first came out and am not impressed.
Jerry
140gr are the best choice and I love the SST's.
Also, the carbon fibre barrels are not lighter then a full steel barrel. In fact, a thin contour steel barrel is lighter. As to the whole accuracy thing, bunk.
I have and have had many hunting rifles with thin barrels that were consistent cold barrel performers way out to 900yds. They may not be as good if you planned on shooting more then a mag full at a time, but that would not be hunting.
I looked into the carbon barrels when they first came out and am not impressed.
Jerry
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I don't know where this " hard on the barrel " bunk started, but it is pure crap, IMHO!!
These cartridges are no harder than a 7mm mag, 300 mag, or half of the other non magnum cartridges out there!
The 25/06 is supposed to be a great cartridge, but Ai wouldn't wanna do a test to see just how long it lasted before it eroded the throat to where it would not hold 1MOA.
Cat
These cartridges are no harder than a 7mm mag, 300 mag, or half of the other non magnum cartridges out there!
The 25/06 is supposed to be a great cartridge, but Ai wouldn't wanna do a test to see just how long it lasted before it eroded the throat to where it would not hold 1MOA.
Cat
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I'm with Cat on this. The 6.5 guys over on 6mmbr.com report that the _top competitors_ typically get about 1000 rounds before their barrels lose their edge. And simply setting-back the barrel means a useful competitive life of around 1800 rounds.
How long does it typically take you to go through the first 1000 rounds in a hunting rifle? Including working-up loads and sighting in the new scope, a couple years? And the next 1000? even if you shoot 20 rounds _every_ month it'll be better than 4 years.
How long does it typically take you to go through the first 1000 rounds in a hunting rifle? Including working-up loads and sighting in the new scope, a couple years? And the next 1000? even if you shoot 20 rounds _every_ month it'll be better than 4 years.
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- calgary alberta
Maxx said:
Boy I would want to see that over my chronograph, I think that might be somewhat optimistic to say the least.
I have 2 and both sport 28 plus inch long tubes, the 28 hits 2987 with 140s, my 30"er will get 3054 with 140s.
When I say hard on barrels , I am meaning in retrospect to 260 or 6.5x55 swede
To get 1500 rnds out of a 6.5x284 is not uncommon, then you typically need to set the barrel back to get the throat back to where it needs to be.
The carbon wrapped composite barrels I have seen , you have no shank left to do this with, as they are normally wrapped to within an inch or so of the shank, which does not leave 1 much room for setback.
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Gilt edge accuracy for a BR rifle is one thing, but to qualify for a mountain rifle is quite another.
1500 rounds is not unreasonable for a presicion rifle.
The quikload prograqm says the the 6.5/284 with push the 2800 mark with a 140 grain bullet without too much problem, but as ATR says, Id like to see it over the crhonograph which I plan to do with the Kid's 24" barrel this weekend.
I get a bit riloed when someone says a certasin caliber is a barrel burner and to use one a bit smaller.
We might as well get rid of the '06 compeletly and use only the 308, and do away with all the other 6.5's and just shoot the 6.5'222 Rem Magnum.
The 25 cals? get rid of the 25/06 and use a 257 Roberts or even the 250 Savage.
I was told by many people that the 6.5WSM was too hard on barrels and I should be shooting the 6.5/284.
The 6.5WSM was still shooting .5MOA after 1,500 rounds plus.
Cat
1500 rounds is not unreasonable for a presicion rifle.
The quikload prograqm says the the 6.5/284 with push the 2800 mark with a 140 grain bullet without too much problem, but as ATR says, Id like to see it over the crhonograph which I plan to do with the Kid's 24" barrel this weekend.
I get a bit riloed when someone says a certasin caliber is a barrel burner and to use one a bit smaller.
We might as well get rid of the '06 compeletly and use only the 308, and do away with all the other 6.5's and just shoot the 6.5'222 Rem Magnum.
The 25 cals? get rid of the 25/06 and use a 257 Roberts or even the 250 Savage.
I was told by many people that the 6.5WSM was too hard on barrels and I should be shooting the 6.5/284.
The 6.5WSM was still shooting .5MOA after 1,500 rounds plus.
Cat
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I get the distinct impression that much of the "barrel life" garbage that floats around is based on conjecture rather than actual experience. 
I would trust the word of a long range competitive shooter, since he would likely have a fair idea how many rounds actually were shot through any given barrel before accuracy started to degrade noticeably. To me, unless that throat is gone in under 800 rounds, the issue of barrel life is a moot point. My personal experience leads me to believe that barrels are not as prone to quickly lose "practical" accuracy as many persons think they will. I have shot out several barrels, but it usually took quite a bit more shooting than it was "supposed" to, according to some armchair experts. I had an early production Ruger 77V in 220 Swift. I took meticulous care of it and never shot it in strings that would make it very hot. It was a very accurate rifle, and I noticed accuracy seemed to lose it's "edge" at somewhat over 2500 rounds. By seating the bullets a bit further out, I was able to recapture most of the lost accuracy, and it was at about 3500 rounds that it would no longer maintain MOA. That is a lot of shooting, particularly for a so-called barrel burner like the Swift. A 6mm Remington I had made it to 3750 rounds before it would no longer maintain MOA. I cooked out the throat on a 7mm STW in 1600, and when I sawed the barrel lengthwise, there was little rifling for the first 3" of the throat. It still shot hunting accuracy, but was definitely not like it had been when fresh. I have owned several 264 Win Mags, which are reputed to be tough on barrels, but none of mine showed any accuracy deterioration at 1000+ rounds. My present one has only 350 through it, and I do not shoot competitively with it, so expect it to last a long while yet. Obviously, a bench rest shooter will notice even a slight loss in accuracy, but I doubt the average guy out in the field would be aware of the loss. I have seen a barrel ruined in under 600 rounds in a hotshot chambering,[6.5 x 300 Weatherby] but I also know about how this was abused, often shot in long strings that got it so hot that water would "sizzle" if put on the barrel's outside. I'm convinced that this barrel would have at least doubled it's life if it had received proper care. I have two long range rifles at present, one is chambered 6mm Remington, the other 6.5-284. I expect them to last for 3-4 seasons yet. By that time I'll be itching to try something else anyway! Regards, Eagleye.
I would trust the word of a long range competitive shooter, since he would likely have a fair idea how many rounds actually were shot through any given barrel before accuracy started to degrade noticeably. To me, unless that throat is gone in under 800 rounds, the issue of barrel life is a moot point. My personal experience leads me to believe that barrels are not as prone to quickly lose "practical" accuracy as many persons think they will. I have shot out several barrels, but it usually took quite a bit more shooting than it was "supposed" to, according to some armchair experts. I had an early production Ruger 77V in 220 Swift. I took meticulous care of it and never shot it in strings that would make it very hot. It was a very accurate rifle, and I noticed accuracy seemed to lose it's "edge" at somewhat over 2500 rounds. By seating the bullets a bit further out, I was able to recapture most of the lost accuracy, and it was at about 3500 rounds that it would no longer maintain MOA. That is a lot of shooting, particularly for a so-called barrel burner like the Swift. A 6mm Remington I had made it to 3750 rounds before it would no longer maintain MOA. I cooked out the throat on a 7mm STW in 1600, and when I sawed the barrel lengthwise, there was little rifling for the first 3" of the throat. It still shot hunting accuracy, but was definitely not like it had been when fresh. I have owned several 264 Win Mags, which are reputed to be tough on barrels, but none of mine showed any accuracy deterioration at 1000+ rounds. My present one has only 350 through it, and I do not shoot competitively with it, so expect it to last a long while yet. Obviously, a bench rest shooter will notice even a slight loss in accuracy, but I doubt the average guy out in the field would be aware of the loss. I have seen a barrel ruined in under 600 rounds in a hotshot chambering,[6.5 x 300 Weatherby] but I also know about how this was abused, often shot in long strings that got it so hot that water would "sizzle" if put on the barrel's outside. I'm convinced that this barrel would have at least doubled it's life if it had received proper care. I have two long range rifles at present, one is chambered 6mm Remington, the other 6.5-284. I expect them to last for 3-4 seasons yet. By that time I'll be itching to try something else anyway! Regards, Eagleye.
.330Dakota
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- Northeastern ON
Terry Perkins on this board shoots a 6.5/284 in Fclass he would be a reliable source as to how many rounds before loosing the "edge". Give him a PM.
