Have 2 of Chad's brakes, one on a 6.5 and one on a 6.
I will be adding more as time goes on, possibly a 338 brake or maybe a 30 if I decide to do a rebarrel.
6.5 Creedmoor Muzzle Brake
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Have 2 of Chad's brakes, one on a 6.5 and one on a 6.
I will be adding more as time goes on, possibly a 338 brake or maybe a 30 if I decide to do a rebarrel.
As in I shoot an APA little bastard. And I wouldn't pay for one.
Another company making brakes that would be worth checking out would be. http://www.muzzlebrakesandmore.com/
He has some videos of testing his brakes vs. some of the other well known brakes on the market.
He has some videos of testing his brakes vs. some of the other well known brakes on the market.
Looking at that page, the ports for that muzzle brake are directed straight back at the shooter. The blast and therefor greater concussion will thus be experienced by the shooter. This is mildly annoying while shooting prone out in the open, but can be very aggravating when shooting in/around any type of structure.
After using an APA lil bastard (which also has the ports directed back towards the shooter), I will no longer use a brake with that port orientation. All my current brakes have the ports directed to the side, and they are much more pleasant to shoot.
APA brakes are the worst...
I have not shot one but have RO'd by one many a time and they are unpleasant.
Generally speaking the worse they are to be around, the better they are to shoot with unfortunately. I know the Heathen and a few others have put a lot of work/ effort into reducing the concussive forces on the shooter and people that are unlucky enough to be in vicinity of the shooter.
It all comes down to what a shooter wants from a brake and how much they are willing to spend. I pulled my APA off a prize table at MLRSC the first year. I personally wouldn't have paid for it I doubt.
The GST brakes do have the ports angled rearwards, but there isn't a ton of port area either so the blast isn't overly offensive while still doing a good job of recoil mitigation.
Slightly off topic, but the lantac dragon is about the most offensive brake I've been around. It somehow makes an AR15 seem like a 338 Lapua.
"Yes I know the creedmoor has decent recoil but teaching a girl to shoot and thing the muzzle brake will help her with the "fears" of recoil."
This was the original question and the topic went to a good discussion about brakes. However, in my experience teaching a lot of women to shoot the "fear of recoil" is really a fear of noise. Make sure you equip her with both ear plugs and really good ear muffs. Most women fear the noise primarily. Unfortunately the brakes accentuate this noise factor. Try her first using the plugs and muffs and for a mild cartridge like the 6.5 Creedmoor you might not need the brake.
This was the original question and the topic went to a good discussion about brakes. However, in my experience teaching a lot of women to shoot the "fear of recoil" is really a fear of noise. Make sure you equip her with both ear plugs and really good ear muffs. Most women fear the noise primarily. Unfortunately the brakes accentuate this noise factor. Try her first using the plugs and muffs and for a mild cartridge like the 6.5 Creedmoor you might not need the brake.
stevesummit
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EM Precision has a good brake as well. They do full gunsmith installed brakes, blended and bored concentric while recrowning your muzzle all for $250 installed. Here is mine they did. They have 3 and 4 port and round and slabbed. I think they also have Insite brakes.
Jordan Smith
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IME the ideal design features the rearward most gill perpendicular to the axis of the bore, with the forward gills pointing somewhat rearward (15-20 degrees, or so, even up to 30). This way the blast directed backward collides with the lateral blast of the rearmost gill, and this has some cancelling effect with regards to the blast coming back at the shooter/spectators, while still effectively reducing recoil. I also like a couple of smaller ports on top of the brake to reduce muzzle lift, but that’s a different issue.
EM Precision has a good brake as well. They do full gunsmith installed brakes, blended and bored concentric while recrowning your muzzle all for $250 installed. Here is mine they did. They have 3 and 4 port and round and slabbed. I think they also have Insite brakes.
+1....very nice
358Rooster
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I have the very same brake pictured above from EM Precision and can attest to its effectiveness. The three port seems about perfect for my .260 AI and the first port being perpendicular does work very well to mitigate rearward blast from the other two angled ports - very noticeable over other brakes without that feature. The thing's a pussy cat...
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stevesummit
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Baha, that is a picture of your brake Rooster!!
358Rooster
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Wait a second.... Steve told me his brake was exclusive. WTF Steve?!?! 
I have tried lots of different brakes before finally settling on the Heathen from Insite. I love them! For several reasons; first they are self timing and can be installed-and removed by hand. They have a Knurled nut that you afix the Brake to and tighten accordingly. Haven’t put a wrench to one ever. I have switch barrel rifle set ups, and for cleaning barrels and the brakes themselves, that super easy and quick install and removal alone is very valuable to me. They can be spun on full tight, or off in 15-20 seconds, by hand.
Second, they can be installed on several barrels in literally seconds, from one to another and back again.
Third, they seem to work much better then all the other brakes I have tried,(Fat Bastard, Lantac, etc). No shot concussion back into the shooter, and definitely way less recoil. Some other brakes dropped recoil equally but beat me up when shooting for a day. I really do think this is a much under appreciated part of any muzzle brake performance. The Heathen was the only one I found that gave me no concussion wave or blast directed back to me, at all. I would’ve bought the brake for that reason alone. (For a hunter who takes only a few shots in a day, maybe this is not important, but I sometimes spend whole days at the range, or full days with the boys shooting steel, and it makes a noticeable difference for me). When I first quizzed Harley about what made his brakes so much better or different then others, this was the first thing he said to me, and that they had really engineered the crap out of their prototypes to achieve it. Said it was no easy task and took them lots of R and D to get it right.
They also also work fine with my Labradar unit.
Also, Insite marks each brake with the specific caliber it is, so if you have several, like me, you can keep track after you clean them, or if swapping them between rifles.
And although it doesn’t apply to my more benchrest type set ups, they also make a cool aluminum or some other super lightweight metal one for hunting rigs and lightweight conscious set ups.
At 225$, with all the extra features and performance of it, it seems well worth it to me. I actually didn’t find them any more expensive then a number of the other brakes I bought over the years?
I’d say that just my opinion, but I know a bunch of other Heathen owners and competitors who won’t run anything else now either.
Definitely worth your consideration.
Second, they can be installed on several barrels in literally seconds, from one to another and back again.
Third, they seem to work much better then all the other brakes I have tried,(Fat Bastard, Lantac, etc). No shot concussion back into the shooter, and definitely way less recoil. Some other brakes dropped recoil equally but beat me up when shooting for a day. I really do think this is a much under appreciated part of any muzzle brake performance. The Heathen was the only one I found that gave me no concussion wave or blast directed back to me, at all. I would’ve bought the brake for that reason alone. (For a hunter who takes only a few shots in a day, maybe this is not important, but I sometimes spend whole days at the range, or full days with the boys shooting steel, and it makes a noticeable difference for me). When I first quizzed Harley about what made his brakes so much better or different then others, this was the first thing he said to me, and that they had really engineered the crap out of their prototypes to achieve it. Said it was no easy task and took them lots of R and D to get it right.
They also also work fine with my Labradar unit.
Also, Insite marks each brake with the specific caliber it is, so if you have several, like me, you can keep track after you clean them, or if swapping them between rifles.
And although it doesn’t apply to my more benchrest type set ups, they also make a cool aluminum or some other super lightweight metal one for hunting rigs and lightweight conscious set ups.
At 225$, with all the extra features and performance of it, it seems well worth it to me. I actually didn’t find them any more expensive then a number of the other brakes I bought over the years?
I’d say that just my opinion, but I know a bunch of other Heathen owners and competitors who won’t run anything else now either.
Definitely worth your consideration.
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Incorrect.. They do have a specific 6.5
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/insite-arms-heathen-muzzle-brake-6-5mm-885-5-8x24.html
If you want cheap and easy there is also a 50 buck one here
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/matad...e-brake-308-7-62-5-8-x-24-tp-78395200447.html
crush washers are relatively easy to install yourself... Maybe have an extra one laying around though or some peel washers.
tell your old lady not to worry. Here is mine with a 6.5 no muzzle device
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