I'm looking at placing an order for a modern hunter, and I'm kind of stuck on a choice of round. I'm purchasing this rifle for a blend of hunting and to some extent precision. I hear a lot of good things about the 6.5 creedmoor, but i have worries about the lethality of the round verses larger game such as elk. I'm sure that a well placed shot is guaranteed to drop one, but my experience huntting is mostly with a 7mm rem mag, so my big worry is if it is a lethal enough round to be ethical.
6.5 creedmoor
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Almost talked myself into buying a 6.5 Creedmore. Bought a 73 Sako Finnbear 30-06 because It seemed like the purchase to make at the time and there would prolly be more 6.5 Creedores around at a later time. Did a lot of reading up on this round and may still purchase one when the time/funds permit.
outback
outback
I have a Creed and wouldn't hesitate to use it on Moose (at least the Eastern ones we have in Ontario), so yes, Elk no problem.
According to Hornady's H.I.T.S. calculator, if you used a "heavy for caliber" 140 grain bullet (Accubond, Partition or A-Frame), with a "very doable" 2700 fps muzzle velocity from the Creed, you would have an effective maximum range of 280 to 290 yards with a point blank range (+/- 3" with a 200 yard zero) of 245 yards for "large game".
To give those numbers some perspective. Your max range with the creed/140 grain bullet, according to HITS, is about 60 yards "further" than a 270 Win shooting a 140 grain partition - and most would consider the 270 "more than enough" for Elk.
According to Hornady's H.I.T.S. calculator, if you used a "heavy for caliber" 140 grain bullet (Accubond, Partition or A-Frame), with a "very doable" 2700 fps muzzle velocity from the Creed, you would have an effective maximum range of 280 to 290 yards with a point blank range (+/- 3" with a 200 yard zero) of 245 yards for "large game".
To give those numbers some perspective. Your max range with the creed/140 grain bullet, according to HITS, is about 60 yards "further" than a 270 Win shooting a 140 grain partition - and most would consider the 270 "more than enough" for Elk.
- Location
- Republic of Alberta
Hmmm this or a 6.5x55....
CreamySmooth
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The comparison with moose is a poor one as Elk are FAR tougher and more determined than moose. That being said... The Creedmore from experience, drops elk. Just use 130+ and you are GTG.
Jack Robinson
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- Alberta / Mazatlan
Rather go with a 264 Win. Mag.
Thats NOT really a Comparable cartridge ! RJ
delta1
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Rather go with a 264 Win. Mag.
It's just a very speedy 6.5, and if a good load is worked up very accurate. I have 6.5x55 a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 264 Win Mag they are all excellent shooters.
It's just a very speedy 6.5, and if a good load is worked up very accurate. I have 6.5x55 a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 264 Win Mag they are all excellent shooters.
I agree with you except still not a comparable cartridge the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 264 Win Mag !
lol RJ
Mangosteen
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- Location
- Okanagan BC/Alberta/ Peruvian coast.
Just curious if anyone has toyed with the 260 Nosler? Thinking about a falling block action in that round.
I think the 6.5 mm is the way to go and the Swedish had it right over a hundred years ago. Gonna get a Styr Mannlicher M 12 with a set trigger. Full stock with the Bavarian cheek. Totally Europe.
I think the 6.5 mm is the way to go and the Swedish had it right over a hundred years ago. Gonna get a Styr Mannlicher M 12 with a set trigger. Full stock with the Bavarian cheek. Totally Europe.
Nosler is now making brass in 6.5 Creed which gives the caliber a little more legitimacy (so others may now follow).
I did consider the 26 Nosler (Browning is chambering in their X-Bolt models) before I bought my Creed (along with the 260 Rem as well).
The Creed and the 260 compare quite well in terms of ballistics, but the 26 Nosler is a beast of it's own easily making 500 fps MORE at the muzzle.
The 26 Nosler is loaded with 70 to 90 grains of powder, almost double what the 260/6.5 uses - so while the "same caliber" the 26 is a "magnum rifle" by any stretch of the definition, making even the 264 Win Mag look "slow" in comparison.
You can't compare the Creed, which uses a 30 T/C case necked down to 6.5 with the Nosler which uses a 404 Jeffrey case, cut to the length of a 30.06 case and then necked to 6.5 - everything behind the bullet is way too different.
I didn't see any advantage when I did my research prior to buying. It came down to what caliber was available in what platform.
I ended up going with the 6.5 in a Savage Mod 11 Predator. If it had of been in stock in a Wby VGII I would have gone that route but didn't want to wait.
The only 260 I could get ahold of was a Rem 700 SPS (brand new) but would need the trigger done AND it was 150 bucks more than the Savage (and I personally put the Mod 11 with the heavy barrel easily on par with the 700 SPS, which leave quite a bit to be desired) and I don't want to have to "rebuild" a brand new rifle to make it "shootable" unless it comes at a price tag that accounts for that.
But when deciding I (personally) came to the conclusion that either the Creed or the 260 were so close to each other ballistically that "for me" it came down to the rifle itself that would solidify my decision - "I" could see no advantage from one to the other in any respect.
Having said that, I do feel that Hornady will support "their caliber" a lot better than Rem has supported theirs. Now I reload, but if I didn't, for longer term availability and range of selection in terms of off the shelf ammo, the 6.5 will probably be better served than the 260.
I ended up going with the 6.5 in a Savage Mod 11 Predator. If it had of been in stock in a Wby VGII I would have gone that route but didn't want to wait.
The only 260 I could get ahold of was a Rem 700 SPS (brand new) but would need the trigger done AND it was 150 bucks more than the Savage (and I personally put the Mod 11 with the heavy barrel easily on par with the 700 SPS, which leave quite a bit to be desired) and I don't want to have to "rebuild" a brand new rifle to make it "shootable" unless it comes at a price tag that accounts for that.
But when deciding I (personally) came to the conclusion that either the Creed or the 260 were so close to each other ballistically that "for me" it came down to the rifle itself that would solidify my decision - "I" could see no advantage from one to the other in any respect.
Having said that, I do feel that Hornady will support "their caliber" a lot better than Rem has supported theirs. Now I reload, but if I didn't, for longer term availability and range of selection in terms of off the shelf ammo, the 6.5 will probably be better served than the 260.
