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Hey guys, new here.

I've been researching long-extreme range target calibers for the last couple months and i've come down to 6.5cr.

I'm going to be purchasing parts for it over the winter to have it ready to go for spring/summer 2012. I know my optics and accessories quite well but i'm having trouble nailing down a rifle to build on..

I've almost settled on going with a savage f-class in 6.5/284 and buying a new barrel for it over 2012 winter, after i roast the 284 barrel with 1000 or so hot-loads..

Just wondering if you guys have a suggestion for an out of the box creedmoor heavy contour 26+" chassis?
 
Not sure I understand what your looking for. Are you asking if there is a chassis available to to fit the rifle you wish to build?
 
There are no factory offerings in 6.5 Creedmore AFAIK if that's what you are asking.

The Savage F-class you mentioned would work great once rebarreled to 6.5 Creedmore.

Why the Creedmore though? Why not 260 or 260AI since Lapua has 260 brass.
 
CyaN1de said:
There are no factory offerings in 6.5 Creedmore AFAIK if that's what you are asking.

The Savage F-class you mentioned would work great once rebarreled to 6.5 Creedmore.

Why the Creedmore though? Why not 260 or 260AI since Lapua has 260 brass.
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I believe that both Savage and tc have the 6.5 cm. The savage 12 lrp and the tc icon precision hunter. The savage weighs 11+pounds and the tc only has a 22" barrel, neither of which I would find ideal.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRP
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRP
 
masonicshooter said:
I believe that both Savage and tc have the 6.5 cm. The savage 12 lrp and the tc icon precision hunter. The savage weighs 11+pounds and the tc only has a 22" barrel, neither of which I would find ideal.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRP
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/12LRP
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Well I'll be.......

If it is the same setup as the LRPV's then it would be very usable for the OP's intended use. I would still go with the 260 though. :D
 
Sorry, yes. By chassis I mean Factory rifle system.

To those suggesting 260, 65CR handloads have better trajectories and longer barrel life, due to a intentionally mid-sized brass(compared to other -6.5mm's). The models and brands of bullets is also larger at this time helped by the european market's use of full load 6.5 rounds vs the US factory ammo which can be used in older period rifles and thus is loaded to older pressure ratings to keep people from blowing up there older rifles.

Norma factory euro ammo has amazing ballistics and can be recreated in the 65CR


My caliber is set, I ask for platforms to build on.
I would like to purchase a 6.5 platform to gain experience with the round, if it isn't factory Creedmoor. Then switch later.
 
RaggedholeLloyd said:
Sorry, yes. By chassis I mean Factory rifle system.

To those suggesting 260, 65CR handloads have better trajectories and longer barrel life, due to a intentionally mid-sized brass(compared to other -6.5mm's). The models and brands of bullets is also larger at this time helped by the european market's use of full load 6.5 rounds vs the US factory ammo which can be used in older period rifles and thus is loaded to older pressure ratings to keep people from blowing up there older rifles.

Is that so?

http://demigodllc.com/articles/6.5-shootout-260-6.5x47-6.5-creedmoor/?p=5
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Yes, I read that. but that is one article focusing mainly on ballistic performance.

The point of the creedmoor is that a standard load, not a reload. Has only 100-150fps less than the 260, but it has higher potential then most other 6.5's. While...reducing throat and overall barrel wear.

I shoot upwards of 2000rounds from spring to early winter. I'm more concerned about a barrel lasting a full year then 100-150fps.
 
There are several reasons why the Creedmore is less than popular in Canada or elsehwhere. The first is that Lapua doesn't make brass for it. Perhaps the other reasons don't matter.
 
I am not a LR shooter by any means but all i can tell since i own my Icon P.H. 6.5 Creedmoor coupled with my Big Sky, i discover that i can hit very, very far and accurately... Awsome caliber that is pushing my 308 to the side... a bit... Cheers. JP.
 
Savage Model 12 Long Range Precision in 6.5 Creedmore seems like what you are after. Shoot it this winter, learn the cartridge, burn out the barrel, rebarrel come spring and you are good to go!

I went with the 260 for brass availability, load info, and I am a fan of 308 based cartridges.
 
You could take a look at the ruger M77 MKII Target rifle, 28'' barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmoore. Brass is easy to do with .308 and appropriate dies (hornady custom grade).
 
If you are concerned about bore life, why not the 6.5X47L?

There is no replacement for displacement.

The 6.5 Creedmore at high pressures equals a 260R at standard pressures. There seems to be a lot of feedback from F class shooters that h4350 is a B!TCH at higher pressures for bore wear. It burns very hot.

H4831SC is far cooler and excells in the larger case volume of the 260Rem and improved.

You can run both cartridges at the same speed. What the Creedmore does, the 260R can be loaded DOWN to very easily and if you watch the powders, burn cooler increasing bore life.

If you like the Creedmore, go for it. It will most certainly work and is a nice rd for the shorter 308 mags.

Also, accuracy is a very personal thing both in real world expectations and the luck of the barrel.

In general, that case volume is not going to be F class accurate north of 1500rds. Lots of 260R's shooting this many rds before tanking. We are using the case to its fullest potential.

If you are looking for min of small rock at LR or going for mild loads, you will enjoy that barrel for much longer.

The demand for the Creedmore in the US has been very strong. Sales of factory ammo have been so good, many rifle manfs are producing factory rifles - that's says alot. Getting component brass is going to be an excerise in patience unless you want to make your own (easy enough to do).

let me know if I can help with components and set up.

Jerry
 
As we all know the 260 Remington is .308 brass necked at 6.5 mm, while the 6.5 Creedmoor brass is new and unique. You can get lots of brass for the 260 Remington if you reload, not so easy for the 6.5 Creedmoor

The 6.5 Creedmoor is the new cartridge that will be used in 600-1000 yard competitions. Many competitors use the 260 Remington, and I suppose this year the 6.5 Creedmoor will log a few followers too since it is almost equal to the 260 Remington . flatter shooting then the 308 The 140 gr AMAX has a BC of .55 versus .495 for 175gr SMK in 308. So you can see that either the 260 Remington or 6.5 Creedmoor is superb for a long range round. I do see the 6.5 creedmore having an advantage with offering match ammo. Sort of like the offerings for 308 match ammo off the shelf. 260 is a reloaders game.

The new rifle from savage Model 12 Long Range Precision comes to mind. I read about it in the summer. I think with the 26 inch heavy varmint barrel it would be a long rifle and if its a range toy then so be it. but I am a fan of shorter pipes. I would have like to see that rifle with a 24 inch barrel. hell even a 22 inch would work for me. Yeah I know... 26 vs 22, fps loss blah blah. I can see myself building a 260 or 6.5CM down the road.

I picked this up off another forum. I will paste it here
A sharper 30° shoulder and aggressive body taper allow the 6.5 Creedmoor to deliver higher velocities than other 6mm and 6.5mm cartridges. And yet it operates at standard 308 Winchester pressures, thus increasing barrel and case life. Coupled with these velocities and these bullets, Hornady has developed a round that is flat shooting, wind defying and extremely accurate. The 6.5 Creedmoor is the ultimate match cartridge
good luck in your search
 
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Your paste from the other forum is the common point i've found with alot of 6.5CR posts. and my reason for choosing it.

It has proven itself in more ways then 1 which is what hornady intended and I find advantageous about it.

Aside from readily available factory-ammo that is excellent the brass will be provided by it.. Which is better because even if i get 2 fires from a factory case fire-formed brass is 30% better than never-fired reloading brass..as a guess, from experience.

and it's up and coming status with a couple years in already makes me suspect it will certainly grow
 
The primary reason for you to get the 6.5 is because you want to.
If it is what you want, go for it.
Then spend the time on the range to become proficient with it.
At the end of the day the shooter's skill is more important than modest theoretical advantages of one cartridge over another.
It is also enlightening to spend some time with a ballistics program to see just how much of an advantage one loading might have over another.
 
Actually you can make 6.5 CM from 22-250 cases which Lapua does make. All it needs is to fireform the 22-250 and they come out as 6.5 CM. Just another thought. Steve
 
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