6.5x55 AI

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Does anyone have any load info for 130 grain bullets in 6.5x55 AI?
I want to try some Accubonds and Hdy Interbonds...
I built a 6.5x55 AI on a CZ 550 action, Kreiger 8 twist stainless barrel, and MPI weatherby style stock.
It shoots great with some 140 grain loads that I got from Eagleye. This load harvested a nice brown phase black bear this past fall.
I want to try some 130's to get the velocity up a bit.
Thank you.
 
Curt said:
Does anyone have any load info for 130 grain bullets in 6.5x55 AI? I want to try some Accubonds and Hdy Interbonds... I built a 6.5x55 AI on a CZ 550 action, Kreiger 8 twist stainless barrel, and MPI weatherby style stock. It shoots great with some 140 grain loads that I got from Eagleye. This load harvested a nice brown phase black bear this past fall. I want to try some 130's to get the velocity up a bit. Thank you.
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Can't help, sorry, but interested in what you can find. I am in the middle of a 6.5x55AI build myself.
 
excuse my lack of knowledge on this cartridge, but i thought the longer 6.5 pills were a good/better penetrater at the lower velocity with the 140gr+ range?
especially in the 6.5swede ?
 
48 grains of 4831SC yielded 3150 FPS when I tested today with the 130 grain Accubond. I used data I found for the 6.5x55 BJAI.
 
Precision Shooting magazine, August 1992 has a article on a rifle build and load data for the 6.5x55 Ackley Improved, by Bob Jourdan.
I would like to post the data but I'm sure there is some copyright rules against it. (and I don't want to be on their naughty list)
Send me your e-mail address and I'll share my photos.
 
im building a rem 700 , kreiger 1:8 twist on a mcmillan sporter . 6.5 x 55
load will be 47.5 or Reloader 19 hornaby sst 140 federal 215 match primer
after all the study it will yeild 2850 for speed
 
Tikkam65 said:
im building a rem 700 , kreiger 1:8 twist on a mcmillan sporter . 6.5 x 55
load will be 47.5 or Reloader 19 hornaby sst 140 federal 215 match primer
after all the study it will yeild 2850 for speed
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Here is your quote from another thread;

"6.5 x 55 will be fine for 600 yards
I'm building a custom one now
It looks like 2840 is going to be the velocity
I have ran every angle on this gun before starting the build
With sst 140 bullets r 19 powder I intend on making this a tack driver for
Punching elk in the ear with .
We are all ready long range 800-1000
7 mm and 300
Just want something a little lighter for 600

Cheers
Best receipt I can find is 47.5 r 19 2800 fps"

It looks like you have picked up 50 fps... and you don't even have the gun, have never tested the load and yet you are quoting the performance... this is why internet recipe's can be dangerous... always take load recipe's with a "grain of salt" confirm maximum pressures and always work up. Before quoting load recipes, you should have actually tested it from a real gun in the real world... I know it is easy to get ahead of yourself when you are going in to a new build and are calculating all the data etc... but wait until after testing before you potentially "bum steer" some other shooter into a bad or dangerous load (not that this one is). Good luck with your build and load testing.
 
hoytcanon said:
Here is your quote from another thread;

"6.5 x 55 will be fine for 600 yards
I'm building a custom one now
It looks like 2840 is going to be the velocity
I have ran every angle on this gun before starting the build
With sst 140 bullets r 19 powder I intend on making this a tack driver for
Punching elk in the ear with .
We are all ready long range 800-1000
7 mm and 300
Just want something a little lighter for 600

Cheers
Best receipt I can find is 47.5 r 19 2800 fps"

It looks like you have picked up 50 fps... and you don't even have the gun, have never tested the load and yet you are quoting the performance... this is why internet recipe's can be dangerous... always take load recipe's with a "grain of salt" confirm maximum pressures and always work up. Before quoting load recipes, you should have actually tested it from a real gun in the real world... I know it is easy to get ahead of yourself when you are going in to a new build and are calculating all the data etc... but wait until after testing before you potentially "bum steer" some other shooter into a bad or dangerous load (not that this one is). Good luck with your build and load testing.
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We know what you are saying about internet velocities; but if he can't get 2850 from a 6.5x55 AI why bother.

I know there's a tendency on this site to water down loads for the classic Swedish Mausers, but in real life, when it comes to hunting loads, I don't personally know anyone who isn't getting around 2800 from their M96's using 140's and some slow-medium powder like RL-17 or RL-19 or whatever.

AI's are nice on brass life, but I certainly would never build one to shoot 140 grain SST's at 2800 - 2850 fps, unless it could be done out of a particularly light and handy rifle for all day carring, say a Rem Model 7 with a skinny 22" bbl. Otherwise, just grab an M96, scope and accurize it and load it up to around 2800 anyways...
 
Northman999 said:
We know what you are saying about internet velocities; but if he can't get 2850 from a 6.5x55 AI why bother.

I know there's a tendency on this site to water down loads for the classic Swedish Mausers, but in real life, when it comes to hunting loads, I don't personally know anyone who isn't getting around 2800 from their M96's using 140's and some slow-medium powder like RL-17 or RL-19 or whatever.

AI's are nice on brass life, but I certainly would never build one to shoot 140 grain SST's at 2800 - 2850 fps, unless it could be done out of a particularly light and handy rifle for all day carring, say a Rem Model 7 with a skinny 22" bbl. Otherwise, just grab an M96, scope and accurize it and load it up to around 2800 anyways...
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Agreed!! If you cannot get close to 6.5/284 speeds with the 6.5x55AI, Why bother??
I have a 700 Classic in 6.5x55 [not AI] It is on it's 3rd barrel. [I love this rifle, lol]
It now has a Shilen 1-8" SS 24" barrel.
140's will exceed 2800 by just a tad with RL 22, Norma MRP, VV N165, IMR7828.
If You Ackley this cartridge, 2950+ should be relatively easy.
Regards, Eagleye.
 
Northman999 said:
We know what you are saying about internet velocities; but if he can't get 2850 from a 6.5x55 AI why bother.

I know there's a tendency on this site to water down loads for the classic Swedish Mausers, but in real life, when it comes to hunting loads, I don't personally know anyone who isn't getting around 2800 from their M96's using 140's and some slow-medium powder like RL-17 or RL-19 or whatever.

AI's are nice on brass life, but I certainly would never build one to shoot 140 grain SST's at 2800 - 2850 fps, unless it could be done out of a particularly light and handy rifle for all day carring, say a Rem Model 7 with a skinny 22" bbl. Otherwise, just grab an M96, scope and accurize it and load it up to around 2800 anyways...
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Eagleye said:
Agreed!! If you cannot get close to 6.5/284 speeds with the 6.5x55AI, Why bother??
I have a 700 Classic in 6.5x55 [not AI] It is on it's 3rd barrel. [I love this rifle, lol]
It now has a Shilen 1-8" SS 24" barrel.
140's will exceed 2800 by just a tad with RL 22, Norma MRP, VV N165, IMR7828.
If You Ackley this cartridge, 2950+ should be relatively easy.
Regards, Eagleye.
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My point was not that the numbers are not "in the ballpark" or correct... my point was that there was "ZERO" practical experience involved... how do we know where the data comes from when it is quoted on the internet... if someone is just regurgitating the data from the Hodgdon website, then fine, it's probably safe ... but if they are quoting "Joe Schmoe's" data from the Shooters R' Us blog and Joe Schmoe was quoting "Trajectory Tim" who was quoting from Ballistic Billy's Homepage... and Joe, Tim and Billy have never even shot the load... along the way somewhere, something could get dangerously lost in translation... Tried and tested loads are what should be posted, not heresay from Joe, Tim and Billy... or at least a statement where the load data came from, so that it can be verified before some CGNer blows up a barrel and maybe an eye.
 
hoytcanon said:
My point was not that the numbers are not "in the ballpark" or correct... my point was that there was "ZERO" practical experience involved... how do we know where the data comes from when it is quoted on the internet... if someone is just regurgitating the data from the Hodgdon website, then fine, it's probably safe ... but if they are quoting "Joe Schmoe's" data from the Shooters R' Us blog and Joe Schmoe was quoting "Trajectory Tim" who was quoting from Ballistic Billy's Homepage... and Joe, Tim and Billy have never even shot the load... along the way somewhere, something could get dangerously lost in translation... Tried and tested loads are what should be posted, not heresay from Joe, Tim and Billy... or at least a statement where the load data came from, so that it can be verified before some CGNer blows up a barrel and maybe an eye.
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I'm with you, if you don't have real world experience with loading and shooting a cartridge, you know, with REAL powder and REAL primers and REAL bullets down a REAL barrel, through a REAL chronograph, you should not be extolling the virtues of your hypothetical rifle/cartridge/load on any forum. Possibly you should be reading instead of posting. I loaded years ago for a 6.5X55 but my info is so outdated as to be worthless, and it wasn't an AI version either, so I keep my mouth shut, right?

To the OP, I can tell you that Ackley used to advise customers to start with the top manual loads for the parent case and work up from there. His experience showed that a max load would fireform the case nicely on the first firing and was always 100% safe in the Ackley chamber. He also said that the fireforming load would be as accurate and chronograph the same as that load would in a fireformed case, that fireforming brass does not change the pressure curve of a load. He said the brass was formed and the chamber volume was that of the AI version long before the peak pressure was reached. Talking of course in the world of micro seconds. If I were to believe ANYBODY'S heresay it would be old PO's and not some computer ballistics and ether rifle build conjecture!!!
 
I do own a 6.5x55AI, built on a 721 Action, and sporting a 24" Lothar-Walther 1-8" SS barrel.
It is a sporter contour, but I use it for the "sporter" and "hunter" classes in a 1000 yard shoot.

The 140 Berger will do 3000, but it shoots best at 2950/2960 fps, so that is what I load it to.
I am using Vihtavuori N560 to accomplish this in Lapua Brass, fired by the CCI BR2 primer.

When hunting, I use a similar load, but substitute the 140 Partition. [worked up safely, of course. :)]
I'm thinking this must be real world experience... ;)

Regards, Eagleye
 
I mis-spoke. 49.5 grains of 4931SC is getting me 3170FPS from my 6.5x55AI, 26" 1-8 Kreiger barrel. I'm very impressed and happy with accuracy as well. Next is to work up loads with the Berger 130 and 140 grain Hunting VLD's. Should be more slippery in the wind...
 
I'm going to have the throat of my rifle lengthened out a bit so I can seat the bullets out a bit further. I built it on a .30-06 length action so I have lots of room in the magazine.
 
Northman999 said:
We know what you are saying about internet velocities; but if he can't get 2850 from a 6.5x55 AI why bother.

I know there's a tendency on this site to water down loads for the classic Swedish Mausers, but in real life, when it comes to hunting loads, I don't personally know anyone who isn't getting around 2800 from their M96's using 140's and some slow-medium powder like RL-17 or RL-19 or whatever.

AI's are nice on brass life, but I certainly would never build one to shoot 140 grain SST's at 2800 - 2850 fps, unless it could be done out of a particularly light and handy rifle for all day carring, say a Rem Model 7 with a skinny 22" bbl. Otherwise, just grab an M96, scope and accurize it and load it up to around 2800 anyways...
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I have an AI. This fella was saying he was buildling a straight 6.5x55. My AI will easliy break 3000FPS according to my chrono with 140 grain SST's. This is done with 48.2 grains of H4831SC. This is a slightly overpressure load as evidenced by the primer craters. I backed off to 48.0 grains and am just approaching 3000FPS. No craters and good accuracy.
 
Eagleye said:
I do own a 6.5x55AI, built on a 721 Action, and sporting a 24" Lothar-Walther 1-8" SS barrel.
It is a sporter contour, but I use it for the "sporter" and "hunter" classes in a 1000 yard shoot.

The 140 Berger will do 3000, but it shoots best at 2950/2960 fps, so that is what I load it to.
I am using Vihtavuori N560 to accomplish this in Lapua Brass, fired by the CCI BR2 primer.

When hunting, I use a similar load, but substitute the 140 Partition. [worked up safely, of course. :)]
I'm thinking this must be real world experience... ;)

Regards, Eagleye
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My words were NEVER referenced toward you Eagleye, they were in fact directed toward Tikkam65 who has a ballistics computer program and a hypothetical rifle and is spouting loads and velocities from a keyboard without so much as popping a primer or setting up a chronograph, very impressive indeed!! I'll never have to buy another rifle, I'll just give all the info to the new computer whizzkids and they can tell me what it'll do and probably even how well it groups and terminal ballistics on that caribou I hypothetically shot at 1000 mtrs with a Berger bullet, life is grand!!!:confused::confused::confused::p:p
 
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