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I see big green has manufactured some of there lower budget SPS rifles in the new military cartridge. Was it just so they could tag it with their name? Whats it good for?
 
for hunters, it offers medium range use on deer, with low recoil

would be a good pick for a young or new shooter
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for those of you who dont know, here's how the 6.8 SPC performs on paper

110 gr. @ 2650 fps ~ 29 grains powder

100y - 2400 fps, 1405 ft-lbs
150y - 2275 fps, 1265 ft-lbs
200y - 2160 fps, 1135 ft-lbs
250y - 2045 fps, 1020 ft-lbs

that doesnt seem all that impressive, compared to rounds such as the 243, 7-08, etc. but look at the recoil numbers in 8.5 lb rifles

223 - 3.4 ft-lbs recoil
243 - 9.6 ft-lbs
257 Rob - 11.8 ft-lbs
260 - 12.3 ft-lbs
6.8 SPC - 6.8 ft-lbs
7-08 - 13.6 ft-lbs
30-30 - 10.7 ft-lbs recoil *(7 lb rifle)

Basically what you have with the 6.8 SPC is a decent beginners rifle for deer out to 200 yards. Low recoil and muzzle blast.

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Like a 223 on steroids, but its no Ultra Mag
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define better

it serves a small limited purpose, but a purpose nonetheless (keep in mind its a military/police round at heart)

30-378 is better than a 30-06 :rolleyes:
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as a military round i'm sure it will be good. but hunting. its limited by bullet weight. a seven 08 would be far superior. a 150 grn 30 30 would be more effective on deer. anything would serve a purpose, as gunnutz we can find a use to use anything that appeals in my opinion its not a very useful hunting cartridge.
 
I think it would be a great round for a kid's first deer rifle. Carrys way flatter than a 30-30 with even less recoil but similar energy. Agreed it was developed for military purposes and not hunting but so was the 45-70, 30-06, 308...
 
Like it was said before, it is first made to hunt the long-beared-turbaned-two-legged-integrist-critter.... I don,t know if it would be easy to find any suitable bullet made for animal hunting. Better go with a 7-08 if recoil is a matter.
 
Think 30-30, necked to .270 and rimless. Cause that's what it is. Relatively useless. Would be appropriate where a 30-30, 30 Rem, or 7-30 waters is.
 
I am very interested in the cartridge. I think it is an ideal blend of recoil and performance to handle the inside 200yds hunting most do on their hind feet.

Think 7.62X39 with better ballistics beyond 150yds.

I just wished that US manf would scale down an action to fit it. Too many spacers in reg. short actions.

I think an 18.5" light sporter contour, 6 to 6.5lbs rifle with a dmag would be a very interesting project. Don't like the single stack mags on the CZ or else my action would be found.

Jerry
 
Hey many of the best calibers were military first... rereational/hunting second.
You guys wonder why the American Military machine is switching over to the 6.8 SPC ? Heres why... The 115 grain bullets have a Ballistic Coefficient of .350 and MOA accuracy out to 600 m... Gelatin tests showed better as good or better penetration/lethality than a .308!
Remington is offering three factory loadings for the 6.8 SPC all in 115 grain bullets.
I think Bartell nailed it... this cartridge compares very well to many popular deer cartridges. I bet you will see the 6.8 SPC offered in many different firearm configurations very soon.
Here is a good read... http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/remington_0303/
 
Oh, there's no doubt it will be a popular cartridge, if it really starts catching on in military circles. But that doesn't make it good. Look at the 308 - it didn't do ANYTHING that hadn't been done before, but it caught on. Same with the '06, and 45-70. The main reason why these caught on was availability. They're exceptionally good cartridges to be sure, but hardly revolutionary. Same for the 6.8SPC.
 
bisonhd said:
I see big green has manufactured some of there lower budget SPS rifles in the new military cartridge. Was it just so they could tag it with their name? Whats it good for?
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No, they helped the special forces soldier who invented it with R&D and such. When they saw the potential of the new ammo, they where the first to put it in production. The SPC stands for Special Purpose Cartridge, hommage to the SF no doubt. I read the story somewhere, pretty interesting stuff. I think that it could be a decent deer caliber for certain applications.
 
This is not 'the new' military cartridge, it is 'a new' mil round that frankly solves a problem that does not exist! The 5.56mm is still around and will continue to be for some time. I'd hate to carry the extra ammo weight and fewer rounds for the purpose of alleged better lethality - you get a main calibre in the centre of mass, you're taking a break for the day!:eek:
 
Salty said:
It duplicated 30-06 balistics in a shorter case of the same design. Perhaps you could educate me on what had been done before to achieve this:confused:
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But no one, other than semi/full auto users (military) CARE whether it's a short design or long. Ballistically, it's already been done by the '06, and others. Actually the 300 Savage came close, and was designed to do just this in a short action, but failed.
 
prosper said:
But no one, other than semi/full auto users (military) CARE whether it's a short design or long. Ballistically, it's already been done by the '06, and others. Actually the 300 Savage came close, and was designed to do just this in a short action, but failed.
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But the bean counters do. A little less brass, a little less powder, a little less steel in the rifle's action. Multiply all that by the umpteen cazillion rifles and cases of ammo... you get my drift;)
 
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