6.8 spc
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Would it though?
the majority of 7.62x39 is corrosive - do you really want to run a $2000 gun with this crap?
Additionally, if you are handloading either caliber is equally tough to get supplies for, but the 6.8 round is a better performer....
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The 6.8 just getting started just wait the US is looking to switch over to something with a little more wump than the 5.56 and i'll bet my left nut the 6.8spc is gonna be a contender
I love the 6.8 round. Very versatile... and contrary to popular belief I never had one single round drop out of the air at 500m.
Very easy to reload for if you can get your mitts on brass. There's a pile of good light .270 up here now.
Very easy to reload for if you can get your mitts on brass. There's a pile of good light .270 up here now.
6.8 spc would be a excellent caliber in a non restricted gun. For an AR platform it's just an expensive LCF rifle as the bigest difference betwine 6.8 and 5.56 is the force of impact.... sorta useless versus a sheet of paper.
As long as you can find brass ( getting easyer nodays that 2 years ago when I bought mine) it's easy to get .270 bullets for it and you have a good selection of bullet type to boot....
As long as you can find brass ( getting easyer nodays that 2 years ago when I bought mine) it's easy to get .270 bullets for it and you have a good selection of bullet type to boot....
Ruger now has their Mini available in 6.8,
So Ruger finally may have exactly what the Mini 14 and the Mini 30 SHOULD have been.
The Mini 14s are a great non-restricted compact little carbine, and I've owned dozens of them,
except ...
what exactly can you hunt with the .223 cartridge besides paper and poodles???
I have [legally ]shot three small [ as in Standard bred poodle sized ] Island deer with 55 Gr .223 SP, out of a Mini 14, and all three of these tasty little critters were instantly DEAD! But these were head or neck shots on standing deer, at 25 - 75 yds. For bigger game, or longer distances, or on anything moving, I'd want more cartridge.
SO,
I then invested in several of the Mini .30 rifles, looking hopefully for one that would shoot better than a pie plate at 100 yds. Personally, I never seen such a mythical creature, although I have heard that such a critter does exist. When a beat up a $90 military surplus SKS can out shoot any Mini 30 by a significant factor, and at a fraction of the price, something is very wrong. I finally saw the light and reluctantly gave up on the mini 30s.
However, IF the new 6.8 RUGER Mini will shoot as accurately as the Mini 14, and hit harder than the mini .30,
then Ruger MAY FINALLY HAVE GOT IT RIGHT!
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So Ruger finally may have exactly what the Mini 14 and the Mini 30 SHOULD have been.
The Mini 14s are a great non-restricted compact little carbine, and I've owned dozens of them,
except ...
what exactly can you hunt with the .223 cartridge besides paper and poodles???
I have [legally ]shot three small [ as in Standard bred poodle sized ] Island deer with 55 Gr .223 SP, out of a Mini 14, and all three of these tasty little critters were instantly DEAD! But these were head or neck shots on standing deer, at 25 - 75 yds. For bigger game, or longer distances, or on anything moving, I'd want more cartridge.
SO,
I then invested in several of the Mini .30 rifles, looking hopefully for one that would shoot better than a pie plate at 100 yds. Personally, I never seen such a mythical creature, although I have heard that such a critter does exist. When a beat up a $90 military surplus SKS can out shoot any Mini 30 by a significant factor, and at a fraction of the price, something is very wrong. I finally saw the light and reluctantly gave up on the mini 30s.
However, IF the new 6.8 RUGER Mini will shoot as accurately as the Mini 14, and hit harder than the mini .30,
then Ruger MAY FINALLY HAVE GOT IT RIGHT!
[;{)
LAZ 1
There is a 6.8 SPC forum in the States at http://68forums.com/. They are having a lot of fun with this calibre.
did anyone else read the comparison article between the 6.8 spc and 6.5 grendal in the new or fairly recent special weapons mag?
i am on the waiting list at wolverine's to get the 6.8 conversion for my xcr so i'm a little biased, but the author made it sound like the grendal was this super long range caliber while the 6.8 wasn't much better than the 5.56.
i believe he stated that the 6.5 had a 1000 yard max range while the 6.8 was a 500 yard max.
yet they both exit at nearly identical velocities, and the bullet weight difference is all of 8 gr.'s as the 6.8 was benched with a 115 gr, while the 6.5 used the 123 gr. bullet.
btw, does anyone know who carries 6.8 spc rcbs dies?
i am on the waiting list at wolverine's to get the 6.8 conversion for my xcr so i'm a little biased, but the author made it sound like the grendal was this super long range caliber while the 6.8 wasn't much better than the 5.56.
i believe he stated that the 6.5 had a 1000 yard max range while the 6.8 was a 500 yard max.
yet they both exit at nearly identical velocities, and the bullet weight difference is all of 8 gr.'s as the 6.8 was benched with a 115 gr, while the 6.5 used the 123 gr. bullet.
btw, does anyone know who carries 6.8 spc rcbs dies?
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I agree with the fellas. Unless you hunt or fight with it the calibre hasn't got much to offer the gun club duffer. It only makes sense if you reload and are looking for something new to play with.
For me I love the .223. All the work is already done for you: tons of data, components and pretty much free brass. All I gotta do is stuff 'em and shoot 'em. If I did the action shooting like you guys do I would break down and buy a progressive press too.
For me I love the .223. All the work is already done for you: tons of data, components and pretty much free brass. All I gotta do is stuff 'em and shoot 'em. If I did the action shooting like you guys do I would break down and buy a progressive press too.
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I'm surprised that no one's mentioned the 6.5 Grendell. I haven't owned or had the chance to fire either round, but was looking for something to out-perform 5.56 in an AR platform. The Grendell numbers suggest it edges out the 6.8 SPC. If you're going to abandon the 5.56, why not go with the best that's available? Or am I missing something?
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Sorry Hutchster, missed your comment first time through.
Usually a caliber will sink or swim on it's own merits...having a military adopt it as an official caliber helps too...as is the case of the .223.
6.5 Grendel Is I think, TM'd and patented by Alexander Arms - it is tough getting guns and dies, and ammo, and...etc. by design, as AA wants to control it. It will be the calibers undoing....add to that the fact more than a few guys are having issues keeping guns running as the design doesn't work so well in autos, and you will see a wildcat cartridge like it die a certain death...
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ah the 6.8spc is only a rimless 30-30 case shortened and necked down, nothing to get too excited about 
First off, you want someone to keep control of to the specifications on the 6.5 Grendel. Look what happened to the 6.8 SPC ( now with 2 mainstream 6.8 SAAMI and SPCII chambers and not as common DMR chamber ) Lots of people had problems with the SSA 6.8 Combat load which lead to the SPCII chamber )
Its also nice you can call one source ( Bill Alexander ) on the phone and chat away regarding load development etc
All 6.5 Grendel barrels will headspace properly with 6.5 Bolts because AA supplies all the Bolts
Not fair to say its hard to get, because its hard to get anything AR up in Canada ! If you look at one of the biggest AR part suppliers Midway , they have far far more choices of 6.5 Grendel barrels than they do 6.8. You can buy a Grendel barrel WITH bolt for less than $300 , so you can't accuse him of gouging people because he can
No problem getting dies and brass either. BTW you can form Grendel brass form 7.62X39 brass very easily. Just run it through the Grendel die, seat a slightly reduced charge and pull the trigger.
Its not worth discussing the long range capabilities of both cartridges. Notice that lots of precision rifles now chambered in 260Rem, 6.5 Creedmore, 6.5X47 Lapua . Reason is simple, the 123 Scenars, 120 and 123SMK and 120 Bergers etc all have BC over .45
The few .277 match bullets available are not even close to this
I have built 2 Grendels and one SPC. Kept only one of the Grendels . Nothing wrong with the SPC if you want somthing different than 5.56. Since I don't plan on killing anything with my AR there was no point on the SPC. I only shoot at paper/steel with my ARs so the 6.5 Grendels ballistic performance made it worthwhile over the 5.56
Lastly, the 6.5 Grendel is not a wildcat ( commercial ammo available to SAAMI spec, load data from powder companies available etc )
