600m with 223?

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Hey I was just wondering how boned I would be to try 223 at 600M considering I only can properly stabilize 55gr projectiles. Will 55gr projectiles make it to 600M with any feasible drop, or will it just get ridiculous? Also, how bad will the wind be pushing me around? Thanks.
 
Hello! The wind will push that little pill around, yes. That distance is possible. Accuracy...probably not. Check out the precision rifles section down below.
 
I have shot my 223 to 600 m but did it with 64 g bergers and shot at 3000 fps. I have a 1-12 barrel. You do get good at reading the wind using a 223.
 
Welcome,

Its nice having access to a long range.


What are you shooting it out of? Guys are shooting 900m with 223's using the heavy bullets and long barrels while staying supersonic. My AR shoots a 62 grain bullet fine at 500yards. You want a day with steady wind but very doable.


Happy shooting.
 
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Try some heavier projectiles, most likely you can get away with 65 grain bullets.

I just got a 223 myself with the 1-12 twist. Planning to shoot gophers out to 350 meters but to keep entertained in the off season I hope to reach out further.

Plenty of others have done so.
 
What twist is your barrel? My FTR rifle in .223 8 twist shooting 80.5gr bergers is pretty tough to beat out to 600m. Even in choppy winds It's usually good for 7-8 v-bulls in a string of 15 rounds. (V-bull is under 1/2 minute).
 
Guys im the retard who posted this originally in greetings by accident, thread got moved. Dont blame the nice people for greeting me lol. And my twist is 1-12 unfortunately.
 
One of the contributors and site sponsors here has written a pretty interesting article WRT long range shooting with a .223 that was posted on the 6mmBR.com site, in which he explains his experiences shooting out at a mile with his .223.

Worth a look. That is Jerry Teo, from Mystic Precision.

To requote an old old expression, it's about the Indian, not the arrow. At 600 yards, you get to learn to deal with wind, Coriolis effect, elevation adjustments, air density and a bunch off other fun things, all collectively and unassumingly referred to as "conditions", no matter the caliber, if you expect to have good and consistent results. Bigger guns and heavier bullets trade one set of problems off against another.

Another consideration (more "conditions"!) is whether your loads will keep the bullet moving at supersonic speeds at the required distance. Going through the transonic speed range is...turbulent...and sucks up a bunch of energy. Not helpful for accuracy.

Have you tried heavier bullets than 55grain? Or are you just going by what you read? Guys have reported their 12 twist barrel stabilizing heavier bullets than that , but it seems to be that individual barrels vary in that.

Have fun!

Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
One of the contributors and site sponsors here has written a pretty interesting article WRT long range shooting with a .223 that was posted on the 6mmBR.com site, in which he explains his experiences shooting out at a mile with his .223.

Worth a look. That is Jerry Teo, from Mystic Precision.

To requote an old old expression, it's about the Indian, not the arrow. At 600 yards, you get to learn to deal with wind, Coriolis effect, elevation adjustments, air density and a bunch off other fun things, all collectively and unassumingly referred to as "conditions", no matter the caliber, if you expect to have good and consistent results. Bigger guns and heavier bullets trade one set of problems off against another.

Another consideration (more "conditions"!) is whether your loads will keep the bullet moving at supersonic speeds at the required distance. Going through the transonic speed range is...turbulent...and sucks up a bunch of energy. Not helpful for accuracy.

Have you tried heavier bullets than 55grain? Or are you just going by what you read? Guys have reported their 12 twist barrel stabilizing heavier bullets than that , but it seems to be that individual barrels vary in that.

Have fun!

Cheers
Trev
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Thanks for the in depth response man. Appreciated.
 
zackstab said:
Hey I was just wondering how boned I would be to try 223 at 600M considering I only can properly stabilize 55gr projectiles. Will 55gr projectiles make it to 600M with any feasible drop, or will it just get ridiculous? Also, how bad will the wind be pushing me around? Thanks.
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223 with any quality bullet at 600m is too much fun. No problem for you to get out that far with 55gr bullets. I would lean towards the Hrn Zmax simply cause they are the best value in an accurate bullet with decent BC.

Will wind bounce you around? of course but that is part of the fun.... and how you actually learn to read the wind.

Better loading methods will be needed to keep vertical dispersion as low as possible but beyond that, all the basics you use for ANY chamber/bullet apply. And what you learn here WILL make you a better shooter when you get a larger option.

We have taken the 55gr SP flat base out to 1000yds ... yeah, falling out of the sky is a pretty good description BUT it made the trip and a large pizza box target was in very big trouble.

For perspective, shooters are accurately shooting the 22LR beyond 300m... the 223 is a hot rod by comparison.

Work up your loads at 200yds for best accuracy and lowest vertical... dial up and send it... not a big deal ... really!

have fun and when you get bored at 600m.. and you will, keep going until you get out as far as your scope and reticle elevation will go.

It will be much further then your currently think remotely possible.

I have had alot of fun plinking with shooters using very large cals ... the look on a shooter with a 338/250gr option having to keep up with a 223/80gr is more fun then you can imagine... especially when you get out to 1400yds.

Enjoy...

Jerry
 
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