What he said.
And also from a practice point of view I would recommend a 9 over 40 because 9 is around 250-300/1k where as 40 is 350-400/1k. Extra money that could go elsewhere. Like MOAR AMMO
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What he said.
And also from a practice point of view I would recommend a 9 over 40 because 9 is around 250-300/1k where as 40 is 350-400/1k. Extra money that could go elsewhere. Like MOAR AMMO
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True, the original post says "All day at the range" So I dont think practice time or money is so much an issue.
No matter what you go with remember that the ammo cost will quickly surpass the initial price of the handgun - if you shoot it enough to become proficient with it that is...
Much better off finding the gun that fits you the best even if it is a bit over budget.
Much better off finding the gun that fits you the best even if it is a bit over budget.
Guys.....he said all day range carry.. he means in his holster all day at his approved range.
It's not a bad question, we all spend a serious amount of time at the range so it's pretty valid if he is qualified or his range allows it.
It's not a bad question, we all spend a serious amount of time at the range so it's pretty valid if he is qualified or his range allows it.
Guys.....he said all day range carry.. he means in his holster all day at his approved range.
It's not a bad question, we all spend a serious amount of time at the range so it's pretty valid if he is qualified or his range allows it.
silen, thanks for the backup, however it was not necessary. The earlier questions about everyday carry related to the way I worded my original post, and I had "everyday carry" as a requirement. After over a dozen posts asking about it and reminding me about Canadian laws, I realised that I had listed "everyday carry" instead of "all day range carry" by mistake. I changed my original post to "all day range carry" so that the entire thread did not concentrate on that. Unfortunately you arrived at the tail end of it. Thank you for contributing.
Take care.
I plan on getting a .22 for practice and potentially a .40 that can take a conversion barrel to 9mm for when I feel comfortable to graduate from the .22. I had several other people point out the polymer added snappiness that could make things a bit tougher on a beginner. The way I see it, the .22 will help me with my technique and getting comfortable with shooting a handgun, and then I'd move to the bigger caliber when I feel up to it. Polymer or not, I expect to get used to the personality of the bigger caliber handgun, and if the polymer snaps more, I'll just have to get used to it. At this point, I think that I have narrowed my choices to either a Browning Buck master Camper .22 and a Glock 22 (eventually with conversion barrel to 9mm), or a S&W M&P22 and a M&P 40 combo (eventually with conversion barrel to 9mm).
I have been told that the M&P 22 + M&P 40 combo would have the added benefit of being a very similar platform, and by training with the M&P22, I'd also get more out of it on how to shoot the M&P 40.
For the Browning Buck Master and Glock 22 combo, I have been told that the fixed barrel of the Browning .22 makes it a bit more accurate overall, and the Glock platform seems to have the confidence of the majority to be the best reliable tested and true, trust with your life platform.
Price wise, the combination of both the M&P 22/40 or the Browning/Glock 22 would come to about the same.
Like I said earlier, I'll make a point of handling each gun at the store to see how they feel, and then see if I can get the opportunity to fire each one.
Again, thank you everyone for your great feedback.
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Have you considered the advantage arms glock conversion kit?
I had, but the price of the kit is more than the Browning Buckmark camper .22, and pretty close to a M&P 22. I would rather have an entirely separate gun if it costs the same. That's why I like the conversion barrels, they are about half of the advantage arms kit.
Fair enough point. Still, I don't see myself buying a conversion kit for the price of an entirely new gun. I'll just have to blast off more rounds to get better.
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Hiya Compass,
You have listed 3 very good guns for that price point. As you memtioned, handle, look at and get a feel for all 3 to narrow your decision. The M&P and Glocks are super reliable, feed anything you put through but are polymer and have the Safe trigger which is up to your taste. The M&P has a range kit version that comes with everything you will need at the range including a holster for your " range carry".
I believe it even comes with ear plugs!
The CZ series look and feel like what you expect a semi auto to feel like. Similar to Brownings and 1911s except it is DA and the slide sits inside the frame. The Glock and M&P are one class of operating system and the CZ is totally different. None IMO are better than the other. That part is up to you to decide which you like better. Good luck! There are no bad choice here!
You have listed 3 very good guns for that price point. As you memtioned, handle, look at and get a feel for all 3 to narrow your decision. The M&P and Glocks are super reliable, feed anything you put through but are polymer and have the Safe trigger which is up to your taste. The M&P has a range kit version that comes with everything you will need at the range including a holster for your " range carry".
I believe it even comes with ear plugs!
The CZ series look and feel like what you expect a semi auto to feel like. Similar to Brownings and 1911s except it is DA and the slide sits inside the frame. The Glock and M&P are one class of operating system and the CZ is totally different. None IMO are better than the other. That part is up to you to decide which you like better. Good luck! There are no bad choice here!
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Have you got your toy yet? Christmas is almooooost here!
to be honest with you. get the 22 you want and while your at the range see if you can try the CZ glock and M&P. I personally own a glock 17 gen 4 and an M&P 40. I can shoot the M&P better overall. but if i shoot the glock with my left hand, things go good. M&P right handed. Today i went to the range and couldnt shoot the glock too good. Decent but not great. The M&P still went great. So it really depends. try them out first if you can
I haven't purchased my handgun yet. I am waiting for Christmas and Boxing Day sales to see if the prices will drop a bit. I also heard that January can be a slow month for gun sellers, and prices can be more attractive. I haven't had the chance to handle the Glock or the M&P yet. I'll have to find the time in the next few weeks.
You may also want to wait till after SHOT in Jan, new models coming out may devalue (general desirability) some of the guns in inventory in Canada.
Hello everyone,
For a quick update, I got the opportunity yesterday to shoot several handguns from a gentleman in town. I tried the Glock 22 Gen 3 in .40 S&W, and then in 9mm using a lone wolf conversion barrel. I also tried a 1911 (either 9mm or .40, I forget), a .22 and a few .40 revolvers in single action and double action.
I must say the double-action S&W .40 revolver I tried was nice and it shot well. My definite favorite of the bunch however was the Glock 22. I was able to control it well in either 9mm or .40. I did not mind the grip angle or the feel of the gun, and the sights seemed to work for me. It had more of a snap to it than the revolver, but it was not as bad as I thought it would be. I definitely liked the stout solid feel of the Glock while still being light.
With the Glock and the S&W revolver, I was able to do 2 1/2 inch groups at 10 yards after a few flyers, which I consider pretty good considering this is only the second time I have shot handguns. I haven't had a chance to try out the S&W M&P, but I consider my search over. I will be looking for a Glock 22 as my first handgun, with eventually the 9mm Lone Wolf barrel. I am starting to see the wisdom of the Advantage Arms .22 conversion kit for the Glock, and I may very well purchase that to practice my Glock skills.
Thank you everyone for your input.
Take care.
Compass
For a quick update, I got the opportunity yesterday to shoot several handguns from a gentleman in town. I tried the Glock 22 Gen 3 in .40 S&W, and then in 9mm using a lone wolf conversion barrel. I also tried a 1911 (either 9mm or .40, I forget), a .22 and a few .40 revolvers in single action and double action.
I must say the double-action S&W .40 revolver I tried was nice and it shot well. My definite favorite of the bunch however was the Glock 22. I was able to control it well in either 9mm or .40. I did not mind the grip angle or the feel of the gun, and the sights seemed to work for me. It had more of a snap to it than the revolver, but it was not as bad as I thought it would be. I definitely liked the stout solid feel of the Glock while still being light.
With the Glock and the S&W revolver, I was able to do 2 1/2 inch groups at 10 yards after a few flyers, which I consider pretty good considering this is only the second time I have shot handguns. I haven't had a chance to try out the S&W M&P, but I consider my search over. I will be looking for a Glock 22 as my first handgun, with eventually the 9mm Lone Wolf barrel. I am starting to see the wisdom of the Advantage Arms .22 conversion kit for the Glock, and I may very well purchase that to practice my Glock skills.
Thank you everyone for your input.
Take care.
Compass
