6mm BR body die

Am I missing something?

Is a body die not supposed to size everything except the neck? including bumping the shoulder back? now have taken a total of 0.040" off the die. What happens now is that it sizes the base of the case so much that it actually stops at the web when it comes up against the die. Even with pushing the case into the die so far that it hits up agents the web it still does not bump the shoulder back and the case is still very tight in the chamber?

WTF did i just get a crap die or something?

Yet I can take my full length sizing die and it dosen't size the body nearly as much but it does bump the shoulder back and the round can be chambered perfectly.

Yes i know I could just take my full length die and have the neck opened up then use it as a sizing die but is shouldn't have to that's why i bought the body die.
 
the redding small base dies with the inserts to give you the proper neck tension are pretty good, not as good as a custom, maybe try widden dies, with the proper neck bushing.

without exact proper measurements I cannot comment further hang in there, once you figure it out it will seem so simple

Jefferson
 
How do you know for sure where it is to tight did you do any tests with layout die to see where it was touching or are you assuming the shoulder needs to be pushed back.

I also shoot a few 6 br's and after a few firings 4-5 I usually need to resize the body cause they get tight ,in my case I find it is the head of the case that swells a bit .

Sounds to me like your body die is way out of spec or not a body die at all, I have a reading fl die that was useless there was about 8 or 10 thous runout on my brass once it was sized .

Did you buy the die new?
 
Yes it was a new die when I bought it. My full fength die and body die are both redding dies. Yes I used blue layout dye, it's the shoulder that's tight closer to the body rather then the neck, it's literally like the die does not even though the shoulder.

I might call redding again, this is frustrating.
 
You have an obvious difference in reamer vs die. Very rare since Norma standardized the chamber but stuff can happen.

Give Redding a call and see what they have to say. I have sold a bunch of these body dies and no one has had the issues you have but manf is manf and tolerances do go sideways.

Ultimately, it is all about fitting the chamber and die. If you have a die that sizes the way you want, use it.

I have had similar problems with "standard" chambers in factory rifles. I just go through my die bin and use the die that fits. Yes, I have various sizing dies for the same chambering.

Each chamber is treated as a unique entity...

Jerry
 
backdoorsally said:
Does anyone other then redding make a 6BR body die. I have a redding body die and it does not size the case enough to chamber in any of my three factory 6Br rifles or in my custom. yes I tried a different shell holder, same problem.

I guess i shouldn't say wont fit, i can get it to chamber but its really really hard to close the bolt. If i run the case through the die three times its not as hard but still tight to close the bolt.

If i use the RCBS full length die then they chamber after. but i want to body size and neck size seperatly
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Maybe your body die is only a shoulder bump die...

Maybe you are mixing brass from 4 different chambers and that is why your full length die corrects the problem. I never mix brass from one chamber to another when using a bump die or a neck sizing die. If it was a hot load often it will require full length sizing.
 
Got annoyed, called forester and had them make me a full length die with the same diameter neck as the bushing that I always use for neck sizing. Going to give tht a try. If it's good I will get one or two more made with different neck sizes for brass that has thinned out or what not.
 
I think more info is needed to help you, all the info you have described are tell tale signs of over pressured cases

1, are you fireforming?
2, if you are or are not, how have you determined jump or jam length?
3, have you opened a new can of powder?
4, are you shooting a new bullet or a new box of same bullets that may have a different ogive?
5, have you changed primers or a new lot of primers?

only asking because anyone of these can take a known good load and make it into a toooo hot load, thus causing a case expansion in the neck/shoulder junction, mid case and base area but not show the primer deformation we usually rely on

just some thoughts that a fernier can tell you
 
OMG, I read these posts all of the time. I want to neck size only. I just want to bump the body when the cases start to get tight in the chamber.

If there is anything that the majority of reloaders do is NOT use the proper tools for sizing brass.

Call Harrells and order a 6mmBR die for the size of your neck. If you are shooting a .269 neck tell them that. A proper die (talking a chamber like 6BR or 6PPC) when set up properly will bump the shoulder and entire body about 1 thou. You want to do that every time. If not brass gets a memory.

I will get a lot of phlack for my thoughts on sizing brass but I guess winning 4 BR matches of my last 8 mean nothing..........

JMO
 
Yep, more than once over the years.

Had a custom 22-250 that I had to machine .015" off the bottom of the FL RCBS die to get brass sized enough
to chamber in the rifle.
It shot "lights out" but even new brass was tight going in.

I have a custom 308 Norma Mag, that only one of my 4 die sets will FL size the cases enough to chamber in it
if the cartridge was fired in another rifle.

My BIL has a 300 WSM that we had to shorten the FL die about .006" to properly FL size the cases.

Not really a rare problem, I would say.

That being said, my 6mmBR Body die works perfectly for both my 6BR rifles.

Regards, Dave.
 
Jefferson said:
the redding small base dies with the inserts to give you the proper neck tension are pretty good, not as good as a custom, maybe try widden dies, with the proper neck bushing.

without exact proper measurements I cannot comment further hang in there, once you figure it out it will seem so simple

Jefferson
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As Jefferson says... Order a Redding small base FL S die in 6BR. Order the appropriate sized titanium neck bushing. Forget about neck sizing and body sizing dies.

Adjust your FL S die to push the shoulder back .001 or so each time you size and as Jefferson said " it will seem so simple".

NormB
 
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