6mm CM

[Buckmastr]

The only reasons I could see to 6 creed is if you were using aics pattern mags and wanted to run a binder plate or if you like the very accurate high bc factory offerings available for it. If im building a 6mm rifle for myself the only 2 cartridges Im into are the 243win or the 6br. A 6 rem is pretty fun as well. If the gun can run a sammi 243 then i will take the extra velocity afforded by the AI case. Deer hunter just build a 6mmbr already and end the madness.... Hint

Hmmm. Something smells...

 

[remington jim]

Except the AI absolutely folds some fellers...like a cheap shirt?
Confounding, that fire forming, is...
The 243AI really is the dirtiest 6mm move available.
Truth.
R.

What are you NADERING about ? RJ

 

[Gatehouse]

Just pencil through. Slick like.

It's because they go too fast to expand

 

[remington jim]

243 Win is a Good cartridge but like the 270 Win it is on my Don't like list ! I really do think the 6CM is a much better designed short action cartridge that is a Better choice in a 2.8 or close to that length mag box rifle ! now JMHO. RJ

 

[todbartell]

Some 243 magic last night from a 22" Remington

 

[Buckmastr]

Maybe it’s because they had to seat it so deep in the case?!

 

[dgradinaru]

Some 243 magic last night from a 22" Remington

Not surprised with it being hornady ammo. Had some 8x57JS super performance 180gr GMX chronied. Factory claimed 2700fps- chrony showed 2500 fps.

 

[Slimbo]

Maybe it’s because they had to seat it so deep in the case?!

More likely they assumed all 243 shooters are looking for reduced recoil levels. Women, children, soft shoulder types.

 

[todbartell]

Not surprised with it being hornady ammo. Had some 8x57JS super performance 180gr GMX chronied. Factory claimed 2700fps- chrony showed 2500 fps.

Hornady isn't always below spec. Here's some 6mm Creed factory Precision Hunter 103gr ELDx ammo from a 24" barrel

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[TD]Stats - Average[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3104[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Stats - Highest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3136[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Stats - Lowest[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3071[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Stats - Ext. Spread[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]65[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
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[TD]Stats - Std. Dev[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]21[/TD]
[TD]fps[/TD]
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[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Shot ID[/TD]
[TD]V0[/TD]
[TD]V4[/TD]
[TD]V75[/TD]
[TD]V125[/TD]
[TD]V175[/TD]
[TD]V250[/TD]
[TD]Ke0[/TD]
[TD]Ke4[/TD]
[TD]Ke75[/TD]
[TD]Ke125[/TD]
[TD]Ke175[/TD]
[TD]Ke250[/TD]
[TD]PF4[/TD]
[TD]Proj. Weight[/TD]
[TD]Date[/TD]
[TD]Time[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3107[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3101[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2207[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2199[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2037[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]319.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5:55:30[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3111[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2984[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2213[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2202[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2035[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]319.61[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5:55:58[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3095[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3089[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2972[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2190[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2182[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2020[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]318.17[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5:56:28[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3102[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3096[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2980[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2199[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2191[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2030[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]318.89[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5:56:53[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3132[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3126[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3009[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2243[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2234[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2070[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]321.98[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5:57:15[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3082[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3076[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2961[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2172[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2164[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2004[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]316.83[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6:21:09[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3098[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3092[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2979[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2194[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2186[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2029[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]318.48[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6:21:27[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3136[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3130[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3012[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2249[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2240[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2075[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]322.39[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6:21:52[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3071[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3066[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2949[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2157[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2149[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1988[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]315.8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]103[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]7/27/20[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6:22:09[/TD]
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[/TABLE]

Hornady claims 3050 fps

 

[Buckmastr]

So hornady ammo is inconsistent. Gotcha.

 

[todbartell]

So hornady ammo is inconsistent. Gotcha.

It can shoot nice Bucky

 

[dan belisle]

Think I'd choose the 6 GT over a 6 CM for paper punching. - dan