6mm Creedmoor goes mainstream!

[kombayotch]

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Factory brass for it too!

Also new ELD-M bullets:
http://www.hornady.com/store/ELD-Match-New/

22 CAL .224 52 GR ELD® MATCH
22 CAL .224 73 GR ELD® MATCH
22 CAL .224 75 GR ELD® MATCH
22 CAL .224 80 GR ELD® MATCH
6MM .243 108 GR ELD® MATCH
6.5MM .264 100 GR ELD® MATCH
6.5MM .264 120 GR ELD® MATCH
6.5MM .264 123 GR ELD® MATCH
6.5MM .264 130 GR ELD® MATCH
6.5MM .264 147 GR ELD® MATCH
7MM .284 180 GR ELD® MATCH
30 CAL .308 155 GR ELD® MATCH
30 CAL .308 168 GR ELD® MATCH
30 CAL .308 178 GR ELD® MATCH
30 CAL .308 225 GR ELD® MATCH

 

[.284]

Nice that they brought out a new 6mm 108 and a 6.5 147 too

 

[rugbydave]

The BC on that 6.5 147 is nuts!

 

[kombayotch]

The new Nosler bullets are pretty interesting too:
http://www.nosler.com/blog/news-and...a-high-bc-reduced-drag-factor-rdf-bullet-line

 

[FrankieT]

Now the hard part begins. 6 or 6.5. Been pondering it for a long time. It's good to see more and more choices in each caliber

 

[bkelly4790]

The new Nosler bullets are pretty interesting too:
http://www.nosler.com/blog/news-and...a-high-bc-reduced-drag-factor-rdf-bullet-line

Yea too bad Nosler lies through their teeth about their BC's.

The 6mm are cool for sub 1k but when you get past 1k they have such little energy it can be hard to see hits on plates they don't really move the plates and don't make much of a noise. When I was at the SH cup 2 years ago the guys with 6mms were wishing they brought something with more ass when shooting the 1200+ target because there was no way to verify hits on the steel they barely even marred the paint on the plates.

 

[.284]

I have read the "what the pro's use" articles and it seems that the 6mm's are by far the most popular.
For you guys that have gone to various prs or sniper's hide type events - is there many people running the 6.5 Berger hybrid 130 OTM's from a 260?

 

[rugbydave]

The new Nosler bullets are pretty interesting too:
http://www.nosler.com/blog/news-and...a-high-bc-reduced-drag-factor-rdf-bullet-line

My shooting partner for the RTC just scored us 2200 of the RDF 175 grainers, haha

 

[kombayotch]

PRA matches are mandated to use flashers on targets 800 yards and beyond, so it really isn't an issue.

 

[Mystic Precision]

It's about time.. I saw the story years back and thought it would have been released that following SHOT show.

Took their sweet time but now it is done... Very nice stuff indeed.

I believe the Hrn 6.5 is a 143gr ELD... not a 147, unless they have made yet another new bullet.

Look forward to shooting and testing more of these new bullets.

Jerry

 

[ABlast81]

Just checked their website, the heaviest 6.5 for the ELD-M is 147gn.

 

[Shawn_338]

It's about time.. I saw the story years back and thought it would have been released that following SHOT show.

Took their sweet time but now it is done... Very nice stuff indeed.

I believe the Hrn 6.5 is a 143gr ELD... not a 147, unless they have made yet another new bullet.

Look forward to shooting and testing more of these new bullets.

Jerry

The 6.5 143 eld X is their hunting bullet I believe

 

[hometownhero]

The 6.5 143 eld X is their hunting bullet I believe

Yes. The X part means expanding

 

[max-x]

Time to dig out that old 6.5-284 reamer.

Even with compensation for the initially optimistic bc numbers, the 147 has competitive potential if gets rolling above 2800.

 

[coleman1495]

Forgive the ignorance on this one, but wouldn't this essentially just be a .243 Win? What is the difference/advantage over a .243?

 

[Mystic Precision]

Forgive the ignorance on this one, but wouldn't this essentially just be a .243 Win? What is the difference/advantage over a .243?

A better fit into AICS sized mags.. that's pretty much it.

Jerry

 

[ntm]

Forgive the ignorance on this one, but wouldn't this essentially just be a .243 Win? What is the difference/advantage over a .243?

Longer barrel life for a given velocity.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Longer barrel life for a given velocity.

Oh, I don't know about this.... using more slower burning fuel at lower pressures might just increase bore life.

Jerry

 

[ntm]

Oh, I don't know about this.... using more slower burning fuel at lower pressures might just increase bore life.

Jerry

Pretty much everybody runs straight 4350 and 105 hybrids in both. Guys are reporting slightly more barrel life out of the creed, and theorizing it's got to do with shoulder angle...
You are correct though, the main advantage is cartridge length.

 

[Mystic Precision]

Switching to H4831SC or even better H1000 for the 243 would lower peak pressure for the same velocity and likely increase bore life.

I have never shot these but there are some wildcats based off the 243 and 6mm Rem where H1000 is the fuel of choice and they report much better bore life. Certainly the science makes sense... how practical it is, I cannot say.

H4350 is a wonderful powder and I burn buckets of it but like all other Extreme powders, they can become very erosive once you go past magnum pressures. If both peak pressures are the same (243 vs cm), the fact that the 243 must burn more fuel would certainly cause more wear and tear.

BUT if you drop peak pressure substantially using a much slower powder, the bore temp is dramatically cooler and thus erosion can be much less. You aren't going any slower because you have so much more fuel to push on the bullet.

Fouling could go way up but we can clean our barrels at the end of the day.

SO..... just depends

Jerry