7.62*39 Green tipped tracer

AK said:
Nah, tracer is enough. Shall we make it official and become CGN Arch Enemies? We could make sig lines or even better, ask a mod to give us custom user titles!

On second thought that's venturing into personal attacks. Could I just get a title of "Tracer Crusader"? Tootall, make it so! ;)
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Im flattered, but i dont think im worthy of a custom title or anything like that. I doubt i even have 1 post per 50 of yours in "tracer" threads. There's clearly a lack of time, resources and dedication on my end.

Speaking of dedication, you often sound like an educated fella. Just imagine how much good you could do for the shooting community if you chose to funnel all that effort into pointing out to NRCAN the retardedness of their policies instead of helping LEO's enforce them against gun owners?

While we're on the same topic, i wonder if you could answer a question for me. I have already asked you twice (at least) in the past, but i was ignored both times.
How are actual tracer projectiles viewed in the exposive regs? Its clear that tracer cartridges are a no-no, but i didnt see anything in the regs regarding the actual projectiles ?
 
zZ_denis said:
While we're on the same topic, i wonder if you could answer a question for me. I have already asked you twice (at least) in the past, but i was ignored both times.
How are actual tracer projectiles viewed in the exposive regs? Its clear that tracer cartridges are a no-no, but i didnt see anything in the regs regarding the actual projectiles ?
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I must've missed your posts. To answer that you have to consider how explosives and pyrotechnics are permitted in Canada.

Any explosive, pyrotechnic, firework, etc. from dynamite to sparklers to gunpowder need to be authorized by ERD (NRCAN) in order to be imported, manufactured, possessed, or sold. These articles appear on the List of Authorized Explosives which ERD updates regularly. It's generally a safe bet that if its not on the List it's not authorized.

Tracer bullets contain a pyrotechnic element in the base, the composition of which is fairly similar to most fireworks formulas. They would be considered a pyrotechnic article and would require authorization from ERD. However when you consider that the Explosives Regulations only permit the personal manufacture of "safety cartridges" (which is where the whole tracer issue stems from) it is unlikely ERD would entertain authorizing a tracer bullet for reloading.

Risk factor though, as with loaded ammunition, is low. Your biggest risk at the moment with tracer ammo/bullets is starting a wildfire.
 
Without getting anybody irate, there is a need to be clear on this issue. When I teach Firearms Safety courses, there is a section on prohibited ammunition which refers to "explosive, incendiary and flechettes". I confess that I was never sure what that included. I was pretty sure it would include the type of ammunition that was specifically designed to start fires, but what about tracer? I know you can buy shotshells that contain a tracer pellet to help you determine how you are shooting at clay targets. Would that be prohibited? I have avoided saying the word "tracer" to students because I was never sure.
 
I just hate that AK keeps pointing out in every thread that tracers are illegal. Someone will notice eventually and want to do something about it and you will end up getting people criminally charged trying to buy or sell or in posession of tracer. Wouldn't want to be in AK's shoes when/if that happens. Not trying to be a #### I'm just saying you can only poke your finger in there so many times before something happens.
 
I just hate that people keep spreading lies and misinformation, and THAT is more likely to get someone charged than anything I say here.
 
bushwhacker said:
Without getting anybody irate, there is a need to be clear on this issue. When I teach Firearms Safety courses, there is a section on prohibited ammunition which refers to "explosive, incendiary and flechettes". I confess that I was never sure what that included. I was pretty sure it would include the type of ammunition that was specifically designed to start fires, but what about tracer? I know you can buy shotshells that contain a tracer pellet to help you determine how you are shooting at clay targets. Would that be prohibited? I have avoided saying the word "tracer" to students because I was never sure.
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The Fiocchi "tracer" shotshells use a glowstick rather than a pyrotechnic element so they are no different than any other ammunition.

Also if you are instructing firearms courses you ought to be mentioning that it is the Explosives Act that regulates ammunition and there is far more to the law than one OIC.
 
"Green tip usually means 62 gr steel penetrator."

Only on Nato-spec 5.56 ammo. Green tip is the standard color for tracer on East Bloc military ammo.
 
bushwhacker said:
Without getting anybody irate, there is a need to be clear on this issue. When I teach Firearms Safety courses, there is a section on prohibited ammunition which refers to "explosive, incendiary and flechettes". I confess that I was never sure what that included. I was pretty sure it would include the type of ammunition that was specifically designed to start fires, but what about tracer? I know you can buy shotshells that contain a tracer pellet to help you determine how you are shooting at clay targets. Would that be prohibited? I have avoided saying the word "tracer" to students because I was never sure.
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I think that "tracers" have always been a grey area
 
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