7.62 X 39 Decent deer cartridge?

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Hello, excuse for me asking but I must, I am just starting out in hunting and I would like to know if the sovbloc ammo withe soft points ammo, of course, is safe enough to take deer with? I'd rather take advice from you guys then guessing, Thx chris.
 
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Same as 30-30. Starts out a little slower, but it doesn't take long for the pointed 7.62x39 bullets to catch up to the FN 30-30 ones.

100 yards, +/-


I'd still prefer something larger though
 
death-junky, I'll argue just cuz ya got more posts n' me. A Ruger mini 30 would be great for bambis and look cool as well. But I agree, real men use big stuff.
 
buy a $300 bolt action Stevens 200, in 243, 25-06, 270, 7mm-08, etc, mount a $125 Bushnell scope and you'll be WAY better off for a hunting rifle
 
I'm sure they would do for whitetail but i don't think it stacks up against the 30/30 as well as has been reported here.....the 30/30 fires a 170 gr. bullet at the same speed as the other fires a 123gr.bullet.
 
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But I agree, real men use big stuff.

I doubt you would be saying this face to face with some of the 7.62x39 hunters I have met. :rolleyes:

How about...real hunters know about the importance of shot placement, practice, and using any rifle they happen to own at the appropriate range for the cartridges performance. :)

http://www.remington.com/products/am...on/ballistics/

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot16_5.htm

Yah that deer better get up it wasn't hit with a 300 winmag. :rolleyes:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...d.php?t=114081
 
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Yes, the 7.62x39 is an effective deer killer up to distances of 200yds in the hands of someone who knows how to shoot it. Here's a few observations of mine:

Even the sloppiest examples of Chinese SKS will group within 4-5inches at 100yds, often considerably less for better specimens. With a bit of practice (possible with the relatively cheap cost of ammunition) an SKS owner could effectively hit an area the size of a deers vitals at 200yds. Some people have reported being able to consistently hit gongs at 300yds, though at that distance an SKS would have nominal stopping power for deer sized game even if you could shoot that well.

By stopping power, I am considering 900 foot/pounds the minimal for hunting deer, which is met by the 7.62x39 up to 200yds. While the 30/30 has higher muzzle energy, the SKS shoots flatter beyond about 150yds while the difference in killing power narrows as well. While a .223 also has the same energy at 100yds, the smaller bullets used by that calibre have problems penetrating and holding together on deer-sized game, making such a shot undesirable in all but survival scenarios. That issue has been covered to death in other threads.

If you are new to shooting and want a first deer rifle, an SKS is not a bad choice. Even if you buy a more expensive rifle in the future, you will certainly continue shooting it for fun, and could bring it along as a back up rifle for bad weather or in the case that your primary gun fails.

If price is an issue, sporterized examples of the .303 Enfield could also be purchased at a similar price to the SKS, though cheap surplus ammo for practicing is a thing of the past. The Enfield would have added killing power for deer, bear and even Moose within reasonable ranges. Another option would be one of the Mosin Nagant Rifles. More expensive, but relatively cheap surplus ammo is still available for them, and the 7.62x54 also has greater stopping power more within the range of a .303 or .308 rifle.

The Stevens 200 is a great deal (I have one in .223), but at around $350 delivered to your door, plus the $125 for a scope, you'll be spending close to $500. An Mosin or SKS with 450-1000 rounds of surplus ammo can be had for considerably less money. If you live in a prarie region of the country where long shots are fairly common, I'd spend a bit more for a Stevens in a calibre like .308. If you live in a region like Ontario where shots are rarely beyond 100yds get a 7.62x39, or a slighty heavier .303 or .308 if you think that you'll try for bear, moose, or hunt be hunting in really thick brush where a heavier bullet might be of help.

Best of luck with whatever you choose!

Frank
 
I agree 100% with Calum, its all about bullet placement, and since Chris mentions he is new to hunting,his shot placement will surely not be the same as someone who has been hunting a while, so being a hunter myself for almost 20yrs, I have to think a bolt action 270 or 308 or one of many other great choices out there would probably be a better bet. Lets face it, take any target shooter who has never hunted, and ask him to hit a buck that is going full out, and chances are he will miss, its a whole new ball game when you are shooting moving game with trees in the way and no bench. In my hunting group we now have a new hunter with us, and I would never put a SKS or mini 30 in his hands until he gets more experience. There is no use wounding game for no reason.

My 2 1/2 cents
Cheers!
 
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Beadwindow is correct, here in england we need to generate 1740 foot lbs which means handloading that particular cartridge. Its ok, Iknow it works from anectdotal evidence. I have yet to bag one but as a stalking guide I carry one as a back up. I cant always guarantee the client will hit the deer I want and the little CZ527 carbine is superb. I either lend the client one of my rifles so I can take over or pack a .303 or 6.5 if the deer is going to be over 200 yards. Almost all of my deer stalking is lowland woods so that lovely little M43 round does the job!
 
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