7.62x25mm Tokarev black rifle mod?

[Splatter]

I've felt for awhile the 7.62x25 would make a very decent PDW cartridge

If you think the 5.7FN is hard on armour, think about the potential of the .22 Reed express loaded with SS109 bullets.

 

[Calum]

6.5x55 Swede would be interesting.

Neat topic.

 

[Colin]

If it where a completely new gun based around the cartridge I would be interested, otherwise I see no advantage of shooting less powerfull more rare calibers from an AR.

Likely reason; a few guys, a few beers, a few: “Gee I wonder if…..”

 

[Mystic Precision]

What would be real cool is finding a way to put the Tok into a 10/22 Magnum rifle or some other reasonably short action semi. Any chance the Tok will fit in a 1911 mag?

The ammo is so cheap and really quite powerful in a carbine. A Mech Tech carbine that is.

Jerry

 

[prosper]

I've thought about a 5.7x28 in a 10/22 mag. The case heads are quite similar in size, as is the OAL. And the 5.7 should turn out Hornet-like ballistics from a rifle

 

[peckerwood]

I think that the 30 carbine mags show the most promise...but what to do with the rest of it?

Anyone ever see that chinese 5.8x21mm?

 

[Colin]

There was a 1911 type pistol in .30 cal

 

[peckerwood]

There was a 1911 type pistol in .30 cal

What were the cartridges dimensions? Any other information?

 

[Mystic Precision]

Just did some snopping on the OAL of the Tok. Listed as max 1.377"

Anyone able to measure OAL of some ammo like the bulk stuff from Marstar? Is the bullet really a 308?

45ACP is listed as a max of 1.25". will go home and measure mags to see if the Tok will fit.

A new barrel on the Mech Tech would be the least headache and barrels are available - kind of.

I am guessing that the 90gr from a carbine barrel would approach 1750 to 1950fps. (roughly 200 to 350fps faster then a HG). Sound about right?

Jerry

 

[Deckard]

Interesting...

 

[Mystic Precision]

Mag max length is 1.30" so the Tok is not likely to fit. Bummer.

Jerry

 

[Splatter]

You could always seat it a little deeper.

 

[Mystic Precision]

The point would be to use cheap surplus for plinking. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother reloading such an 'obsure' case.

Jerry

 

[Splatter]

Good point, and actually seating that little pill 1/8" deeper is quite a bit.

 

[Colin]

What were the cartridges dimensions? Any other information?

Saw it in one of my gun mags, will have to look through them when I am on the throne.

 

[peckerwood]

Without the endorsement of KevB though, I don't see this project going very far...lol...instead it will end up being a random obscurity on the benches of handloaders.



But that doesn't detract from the fact that I am still curious about it. Barrels are easy as hell to find. Ammo and casings are also easy to get and cheap.

 

[peckerwood]

Look what I found...notice the rim thickness

I also found this Galil style rifle chambered in 30 carbine...perhaps one can make some kind of middle-ground rifle that doesn't pattern itself after an AK or Galil so as to avoid prohibition status...use 30 carbine mags and an AK74 bolt?

 

[Calum]

I've felt for awhile the 7.62x25 would make a very decent PDW cartridge

Esp' if used in one of these. (a naughty/scary SMG of course)
http://www.ppsh41.com/

 

[Mystic Precision]

Anyone got a reamer and willing to do installs for a reasonable price?

Give me a PM and we can talk.

Jerry

 

[AbHobbyist]

Jerry:

Any progress here on this project??

regards

AbH