You bought one with sights right? I'm siriously leaning towards it if I will decide with the caliber. Just thinking if the one with sight would work better or the one without and add a scope later. Where do you buy non-corrosive military surplus ammo? is it as good deal as corrosive?
7.62x39 caliber. Do you use it for hunting? Range?
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I've said this before, and I'll say it once again; when your hunting in a rural area with houses and other properties within eye sight of your hunting patch, and your shots are not going to be over 200 yards, small capacity cartridges are an excellent choice.
Hunting in areas where you can look and see (or even hear) other people is becoming quite common in this day and age, and due to population growth it's going to become more common. Now, given that their are idiots out there that will destroy property no matter what is in their hands; a cartridge with a small effective window is still a very good choice to ensure that a stray bullet does not harm someone or damage property. Using the 123-125gr bullets also ensures that you do not have a bullet over penitrating, and continuing on to parts unknown.
This cartridge is not in the same catagory as the 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag, and this is a good thing; it fills a niche.
As to the accuracy potential of the case, there are these little cartridges known as ppc...
Ivor
Hunting in areas where you can look and see (or even hear) other people is becoming quite common in this day and age, and due to population growth it's going to become more common. Now, given that their are idiots out there that will destroy property no matter what is in their hands; a cartridge with a small effective window is still a very good choice to ensure that a stray bullet does not harm someone or damage property. Using the 123-125gr bullets also ensures that you do not have a bullet over penitrating, and continuing on to parts unknown.
This cartridge is not in the same catagory as the 30-06 or 7mm Rem Mag, and this is a good thing; it fills a niche.
As to the accuracy potential of the case, there are these little cartridges known as ppc...
Ivor
Knowing your target and beyond is every hunter's responsibility...... Thinking you can mitigate this by choosing a lighter cartridge is poor thinking..... People have been killed by .22lr at distances of a kilometer.....
Read the post.... Some tips:
-Got buildings around?, don't point your rifle towards them or shoot something that stands between you and them
-Other hunters around?, ensure that you are shooting from an elevated position like a tree stand etc, or if you know where they are, don't shoot something between you and them.....
It's very simple.....
Trading down from a .30-06 to 7.62x39 does not mitigate a single hazard in the situation you have described.....
If your shooting a 150gr bullet at 2900fps, and hit a deer brodside, your bullet may still be travelling faster than a 7.62x39 upon exiting....with more momentum due to the heavier bullet. If you think that shouldn't be an issue because you KNOW where your bullet will end up all the time, thats the dangerous attitude.
Ivor
Ivor
So..... Same situation..... Do you KNOW where your 7.62x39 is going to end up?...... What velocity it will be travelling at, what direction it is headed in?
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My 7.62x39 was in a Mini 30. It was fun and I used it for 30cal centre fire plinking and hunting Renfrew County deer and bear. It was OK and I'm not dissing it but, at the end of the day, I determined that anything the Russian can do the 30-30 (and 32 Win Spl or 35Rem) can do better.
The only one "missing it" is you...... If you want to go hunt deer within the range of the 7.62x39 have at it...... I am not telling you it won't work....... Or that you need a sledgehammer to drive in a Brad nail.....
But I am telling you that your idea that using a lower powered cartridge will make all of the people and buildings around you safe is completely false..... And your assertion that you somehow KNOW it is safer is even more false.....
Wrong..... I take the attitude that I have a rifle in my hands capable of launching a projectile a very far distance..... I execute principle number two.... "Know your target and beyond"....... And that principle is in play whether I am hunting rabbits with a .22 or deer with a .308.......
The attitude that you are safer by hunting with a lower velocity round is completely irresponsible and unsafe and violates the principles of safe firearms handling......
Well.... First off, I have passed on many shots that I questioned in regardst to safety..... I wager most ethical hunters have as well......
Let's stick to the root of your argument, and that is that you can be more confident that you can take more shots with the 7.62x39 than you can with, say a .30-06........... Because the 7.62 is lower velocity.....
Again Ivor, what is your argument?..... you are all over the place here...... Do you not need to know you target and beyond with the 7.62 as you would with an aught six?...... What makes it "safer"?..... It's a simple question that you have yet to answer......
A 39 can and will kill deer, but, if you are buying a hunting rifle for big game why limit yourself? The 39 is not the best choice. It' fun cheap and available, I have 2 SKSs, but there are so many better rifles cartridges. A 308 can be shot reasonable with surplus and good ammo for hunting. To play at the range get a 10-22 it's cheaper. 7.62x39 might be fine but a 6.5x55,260,270,280 7x57 all the way to 30-06 is a much better pick. I think the game deserves that much. JMHO AJ
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I've used the sks for protection, and worked well, tho it is for closer ranges than a bolt action
Yes, with sights. The rear sight is ingeniously simply adjustable even in the field. IMHO the sights are very good. I shoot with open sights at 100 yards without any problem. In the future I'll mount a scope but I have not decided which brand yet. The rear sight is folded down so it would not interfere with a scope. That's another great feature of the M85 which is not available on a much more expensive CZ 527 carbine.
I wanted the 7.62x39mm caliber because of availability of surplus ammo. So far, I don't hunt just do target shooting so, surplus it's not a problem for me. Although, like I said earlier, I stick with non-corrosive. I have both the SKS and Mosin which shoot corrosive surplus.
I bought 1,500 rounds of Chinese non-corrosive at Lever Arms Service Ltd. With taxes and shipping to Ontario it comes to $0.32/rd. Still not bad.
Not all over the place at all. I'm simply calling you out when you want to accuse me of having unsafe or inethical practices. If you don't see any reason to shoot a cartrige such as the 7.62x39 that is your perogative. But stalking hits on certian topics makes me suspect that you spend more time on the computer than out in the field.
Ivor
Lol...... Very simple question that you have yet to answer..... Yet one you asserted...... Is the 7.62 x 39 safer in a situation where there may be a person or a building in the background?
Does shooting a 7.62 make you any safer than someone shooting something more "powerful" in the same situation? ...... Keeping in mind you should know your target and beyond.... Does it give you the ability to relax the safety rules?..... It's a very simple yes l no answer that you have yet to provide....
