7.62x39 semi-auto accuracy?

[arachn'auquébec]

These are utilitarian firearms, grab an SKS from Marstar's upcoming shipment, a crate of ammo and go have some fun. If you really hate it, wait a couple of years and get 3x your money back selling it in the EE.
IMHO the CZ is a better firearm, the Russians though so too, that is why they let the Czechs build them instead of the AKs that everyone else had to build. If you want the best potential for accuracy, you would be better of with a CZ.
The ammo you shoot has a lot to do with accuracy or lack there of.

Thanks for the advice! I see marstar is out of order right now...these are to be new sks? I thought this weapon was not produced anymore.

 

[Wild_Thing]

Thanks for the advice! I see marstar is out of order right now...these are to be new sks? I thought this weapon was not produced anymore.

I refer you to the latest thread, FYI, Johnone is John from Marstar.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395700

 

[Sly Old Fox]

standing position, no rest, 5-round burst fire, 100 meters, all 5 bullets drill into an 8-10inches group for sure. my Chinese SKS ( we call Type 56 semi ) guarantees every time i can made it

I hope that with my Tula 1951 with TS 200 Peep, narrower post and tuned trigger, I can off hand put 5 into a 6" grouping at 100 yds.

However, the quoted word "bursts" is incorrect in application to a semi, such as an SKS. But for an AK-47, yes, it fits.

When I received my training on the original Bren .303, prone and the order was two mags, bursts, I had my change leaver on auto but fired each round, aimed got my two mags off in the allotted time and received s**t from the Cpl. "Bursts, sir!" Me. check the f....ing target!"

 

[Epoxy7]

You have a better chance of getting good accuracy from the CZ-858. The barrel isn't chromed, and they are new CZ barrels, not surplus.

The accuracy will also be limited by the ammo you shoot.

Other than accuracy the CZ-858 offers a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine. These features make a big difference.

 

[westrifle_sks]

Russian SKS review

These are utilitarian firearms, grab an SKS from Marstar's upcoming shipment, a crate of ammo and go have some fun. If you really hate it, wait a couple of years and get 3x your money back selling it in the EE.
IMHO the CZ is a better firearm, the Russians though so too, that is why they let the Czechs build them instead of the AKs that everyone else had to build. If you want the best potential for accuracy, you would be better of with a CZ.
The ammo you shoot has a lot to do with accuracy or lack there of.

For your knowledge, saying that Russians let Chechs built CZ is bs, saying it is the same to AK47 as a Louise Vuton bag on the night market to a real one in a high class store. It looks the same it will use the same 7,62x39 cartridge but it is simply a very good knock off. Anyone who used a ak47 will tell you that. Did you ever shoot ak47? It is a war machine and a pretty good and accurate one this is why it still used until now by Russian army. I just don't like when people say cz is better than ak47. If we could buy Ak47 in Canada I would choose Ak over cz. SKS was earlier version of AK47. The only reason it is allowed into Canada because it cannot be changed into fully automatic mode. If you want accuracy you should buy SVT. Too bad SVD is illegal in Canada.
Sorry I like SKS rifles those are the best for me. Price and cheap ammo is all you need. If you buy new production ammo, I am sure CZ and SKS are pretty accurate, Surplus from 1950 is not that accurate. If you want accuracy you should and still be cheap buy 1993 production surplus.

Review of SKS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76KQtjCAsG4&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

[DMcFaul]

I've shot nearly as much rounds through AK's as VZ's (10's of thousands of rounds), and I would take a VZ over a AK any day. The VZ is not a "knock off" of the AK.. It's not even close. I bet that you'd have a hard time naming the similarities aside from the caliber ..

The reason the Russians have the AK still is because it's 'their' weapon.. it'd be like expecting the US to give up the AR for a SIG. Just because people use it does not make it the best.. There's enough examples of that out there. The AK is a damn fine tool.. but side by side with the VZ, it's not in the same league. Again, they're so different you're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[griffin86]

I have shot my CZ, five shots in a 1.5" group. The moons must of aligned that day, because I haven't done it since. I have only been to the range once since then and wasn't as controlled as I would like it for accuracy. (buddies firing off lots of rounds with it).

I have a Aimpoint Comp m4 on my CZ.

 

[Wild_Thing]

For your knowledge, saying that Russians let Chechs built CZ is bs, saying it is the same to AK47 as a Louise Vuton bag on the night market to a real one in a high class store. It looks the same it will use the same 7,62x39 cartridge but it is simply a very good knock off.

I see that you have never handled a CZ(VZ) 58 nor know anything about it's history.
Here is a good read to start you off.

w ww.lmsdefense.com/forum/index.php?topic=3805.0

And yes I have handled and fired an AK, that is why I can tell the difference between a stamped sheet metal rifle designed to be assembled by peasants in the field and the CZ, a rifle made in a machine shop.

 

[chopper 1]

Moon alignement

I have shot my CZ, five shots in a 1.5" group. The moons must of aligned that day, because I haven't done it since. I have only been to the range once since then and wasn't as controlled as I would like it for accuracy. (buddies firing off lots of rounds with it).

I have a Aimpoint Comp m4 on my CZ.

When my moons were aligned I have shot 3 under half inch 3 rd. groups,
and have seen others do the same with irons !
Saw only 5 such groups total since the 858 became available, and only with brand new guns.
And yeah - the 4th rd is always 1 to 3 inches away - LOL !

 

[Northman999]

The biggest problem is the cheap ammo that guys shoot - this affects things way worse than the rifles.

My two norc SKS's group about about 2.5" at 50 yards with surplus.
With quality factory ammo, or handloads, they shoot under 1" at 50 yards.

 

[cote_b]

CZ-858's are quite accurate. Rashid's and Vz-52/57's would also be very good i'd imagine. Id probably say the sks would be the least accurate of of the lot, but are capable of good accuracy depending on the shooter.

 

[primus1]