My old notes were lost in a basement flood 10 yrs ago, but I once played around with sub-sonics a lot. I made up a fairly hard hitting round by loading (and this is from a 50yr old so take the memory for what it is worth) 11gn of Unique to push a 220gn Sierra Game King down the road at just under 1100fps. I was in NS at the time, so pretty much sea level. I have some left over but no time to pull them to check powder loads. One SKS cycled them fine, another you had to #### it every second or third round. Working nights, will dig them out and post pics tomorrow, but I'm not pulling them! Renovating a kitchen.