7.62x39

Superbrad said:
If you are taking a shot with a farmhouse as your backdrop, you have more important things to think about than cartridge selection....
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I take it reading comprehension is not your strong point. In much private property hunting there is often no way to not have buildings, animals, and even other hunters all in close proximity. A smaller cartridge that doesnt travel too far is often a much safer tool.
ivor
 
Superbrad said:
Any SKS fanboys want to take brobee's challenge?...... The target is only 100 yards away, and you only have to land your rounds in an 8 inch circle...... Sounds reasonable for a "hunting rifle" to me...

I posted my results.....
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No fanboy here, but a guy shooting an SKS won the last milshoot I attended by a pretty good margin. Standing, sitting, prone, and snaps. Range was 100m and one relay at 200.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...SC-Spring-Milshoot-Saturday-May-16-2015/page2
 
I'm not a fan of semi autos and only bought my SKS because it was cheap,functional and went bang when I pulled the trigger but had there been a bolt gun chambered in 7.62x39 for the same price,I would have chosen that one.In fact I would have bought an H&R single if I could have got it ,but If I'm going to lay out serious money for a rifle, then I'm going to go with a more useful all round cartridge
 
Superbrad said:
Any SKS fanboys want to take brobee's challenge?...... The target is only 100 yards away, and you only have to land your rounds in an 8 inch circle...... Sounds reasonable for a "hunting rifle" to me...

I posted my results.....
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I'm an SKS fanboy (or fan-geezer) so I will give it a go. I had to make this a public acceptance so that I do go out there in the snow and cold.
 
Superbrad said:
Any SKS fanboys want to take brobee's challenge?...... The target is only 100 yards away, and you only have to land your rounds in an 8 inch circle...... Sounds reasonable for a "hunting rifle" to me...

I posted my results.....
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Link to the thread? Wouldn't want to break any rules ;)

Might take a few weeks to get out and give it a try.
 
madashell said:
Assuming you are referring to an SKS here (as opposed to a more accurate bolt)...

SKS is generally accepted to be a 4 moa rifle.

Zero your SKS irons at 19 m first intersection, 170 m second intersection.

Get yourself an 8" x 8" steal plate. Set the plate out at 200 m.

If you can hit the plate with almost every round you know where you're hitting, and you can EASILY hunt with it at 100 m .... it's more than just a deer rifle too.

Obviously working your way out to 200 is the way to go but if you can reach that goal you can easily hunt ethically with it within it's and your effective range.

There is so much Bulls**t non-sense about the SKS and the x39 and how useless it is.
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Most ranges do not allow you to shoot at steel plates. Yes we all know an SKS works just fine as a hunting rifle. The SKS is the equivalent of a 30-30. Would I trade it for a scope bolt action 308? No. I own a SKS but mostly just use it for practice and the joy of shooting.It makes a great camping rifle as well. If a person only hunts a minimal amount an SKS would work. As a primary hunting rifle I think there are simply better options.
 
I never thought I'd buy an SKS, but I did, a brand new old stock one for the cause! Even bought a crate of 1500 rounds of ammo, for the cause! Also bought a custom ATI tactical stock for it! Haven't done anything with it so far, I'm so bad for doing that! Prolly gonna buy 3 more SKS's for my sons, for the cause. I wanted to buy a nice used CZ that fires the same cartridges from a gun show, but like a fool, I didn't! I guess they will be a fun gun for a while until the novelty wears off, then stand in the safe until the "time comes";)
 
ratherbefishin said:
I have a SKS in a Choate Dragunof stock which is a fun gun to shoot,cheap ammunition is readily available.But apart from that ,what practical use is a 7.62x39? I see some very nice CZ and Ruger rifles chambered in that cartridge,but is there any practical advantage to them that a plain SKS doesn't offer? Notwithstanding that ' just because' is a valid reason to spend $600 or $700 for something that a $200 rifle can do just as well or better. But apart from that, what identifiable advantage is there ,the 7.62 x39 does not seem to be even as good as a 30-30 ,definately less than a 6.5x55 swede for deer hunting,under gunned for elk, moose or bear and is overkill for rabbits and not the best choice for squirrels or potting grouse.Its hardly qualifies as a target shooters choice..but if fun shooting is what you want,what does a CZ or Ruger offer that an SKS doesn't? Each to their own,but it Seems to me that the $500 diference might give more value spent on a couple of cases of ammunition for cheap plinking,in a 'truck gun' which seems to be the best use of the cartridge ... your thoughts?
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7.62x39 was designed to kill / seriously wound men. That has been and still is its main use. Don't do that though, that's not very nice.

Adequate hunting round for medium and small game within ~250m. MPBR around 200m or so.
 
Gatehouse said:
Or elk! :)

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Actually it's staggering the variety of animals hunted with a SKS. I've even seen pics of Russian grizzly hunters with SKS, which wouldn't be my first choice, but I guess sometimes you just need to bring what you got! :)
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SKS were used in Romania also for grizzly hunting for only: a good reason ten shots ... wont be my choice also but if it was only what i can get and use i will ...
 
ivor said:
I take it reading comprehension is not your strong point. In much private property hunting there is often no way to not have buildings, animals, and even other hunters all in close proximity. A smaller cartridge that doesnt travel too far is often a much safer tool.
ivor
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Hmmmm.... here is what you wrote:

Because tomorrows hunt is 300 yards away from farm houses, and even a good shot from a 30-06 can have consequences on the other side of the animal.
Ivor
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While my reading comprehension is good, it isn't good enough to reach through the internet into the depths of Ivor's mind to see what he meant by his vague comment... I apologize and promise to work on my shortcomings :)

Also, if you think the 7.62 x 39 "won't travel too far" and is safe with a hunter in "close proximity" I think you are mistaken... unless you have something else in your mind that you didn't actually type out that my poor reading comprehension isn't picking up?.....
 
ivor said:
... even a good shot from a 30-06 can have consequences on the other side of the animal.
Ivor
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"On the other side," would indicate to me that you are shooting in an unsafe direction.

Superbrad said:
If you are taking a shot with a farmhouse as your backdrop, you have more important things to think about than cartridge selection....
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ivor said:
I take it reading comprehension is not your strong point. A smaller cartridge that doesnt travel too far is often a much safer tool.
ivor
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I guess my reading comprehension is sub-par also, because I read it the same way as Brad... I don't care if you are using buckshot, you don't shoot at an animal with a house or vehicle or hunter in the background. A smaller cartridge is not the "better/safer tool..." The best tools in your bag are vigilence and common sense.

On a farm we hunted for 20 years, the previous party on the property put two rounds, from a lowly .30/30, right through the farmers living room and master bedroom at chest height. Fortunately nobody was hit, but they were escorted off the property. The same group shot a neighbors steer a couple years earlier and paid an "on the hoof" cost after initially denying responsibility.

KNOW your background... and when in doubt, DO NOT shoot!
 
Superbrad said:
Hmmmm.... here is what you wrote:



While my reading comprehension is good, it isn't good enough to reach through the internet into the depths of Ivor's mind to see what he meant by his vague comment... I apologize and promise to work on my shortcomings :)

Also, if you think the 7.62 x 39 "won't travel too far" and is safe with a hunter in "close proximity" I think you are mistaken... unless you have something else in your mind that you didn't actually type out that my poor reading comprehension isn't picking up?.....
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300 yards away does not mean the hunter is shooting AT the farmhouse. As I say comprehension.
Also, if you really don't understand that a bullet from a 7.62X39 has neither the velocity nor the trajectory of a 30-06, especially after travelling through an animal, then I'm wasting my time in discussing with you.
Ivor
 
What does a few hundred FPS matter if the bullet is fired towards something it shouldn't be, through an animal or not. I don't care if it's a 50 BMG or a 22 short, both can be lethal at long ranges and should never be fired in an unsafe direction. If someone thinks a 7.62x39 is any safer than a 30-06 when fired by an idiot, they are also an idiot.
 
grelmar said:
Bookmarked, and thanks for that. It's a good skills test. I know right off 2 out of 10 will safely hit the backstop without hitting the paper. (I can't hit anything from kneeling anymore - too much damage to the knees over the years, hard to aim well past a certain level of pain).
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It was fun.... going to try it out with a couple of different rifles as well.... I barely hit the circle from sitting unsupported....
 
I have no problem using an SKS for deer hunting out to whatever reasonable range you consider it accurate. However, it's not a 30-30, you can't shoot 170Grain bullets at 2000fps out of it. You need to pick your shots. I like a challenge, and I've been hunting long enough to know when to pass on a shot, even yes, that buck of a lifetime. It's not worth wounding it.
I have, and will use an SKS on occasion. Same for the 44-40, I've even used a 38-40. All very effective if you don't push them. (Well maybe you could shove the rifle off your shoulder as you fire so it's faster eh? :) )
 
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