7.62x39

However there is a good chance that the KGB has zz-denis and Norsemanon's houses on survailance and if Russia ever decides to Invade our Country to take our Natural Resources, the Russian's might just drop a bomb on your houses because they are "strategic targets"....................Lol.


Or they are Russian spys, and that ammo bunker they are building up are resupply points?
:popCorn: Anyone up for a conspiracy this morning? :D
 
Or they are Russian spys, and that ammo bunker they are building up are resupply points?
:popCorn: Anyone up for a conspiracy this morning? :D

Good point. I thought I saw a exhaust vent in one of those pictures. Thats a sure sign that they are in a underground bunker. I am pretty sure that I saw some "microfilm" on one of those shelves also.
 
Even if there was a limit on how much ammo you are permited to store....Who the heck keeps track of that? Its impossible to know how much ammo a person shoots, and has left.

I really doubt that the RCMP cares that much about some guy with 100,000 rounds of ammo in storage for a rainy day.

However there is a good chance that the KGB has zz-denis and Norsemanon's houses on survailance and if Russia ever decides to Invade our Country to take our Natural Resources, the Russian's might just drop a bomb on your houses because they are "strategic targets"....................Lol.

lol
 
I have a question, more I think in keeping with the OP -

The consensus seems unclear on whether or not it will decrease in availability, but lets just say, it will.

I dont have anything that shoots x39 (I know, I really should), but have been considering picking some up for the sheer sake of having it - and have advocated the same to friends and family, even those who dont shoot (I get some weird looks).

The thrust of the argument is; spend 180-200 bucks now, and when the stuff dries up, sell it for a profit. Frankly I'd rather just buy it cheap now and shoot it, but the reality is if it goes off the market, it will be more valuable.

My question is - how much more valuable. To you SuperMen (I salute you) with the ho-jillion cases squirreled away in your basements/garages/manvaults, are you sitting on a potential fortune?

ALso - with regard to value; I'm living in a rural area. I gauge the ammo popularity by what gets left at my local range; to date I've found two x39 cases in two years. Something tells me there are more .303's than x39's here - would an increase in price/rarity be felt less in rural areas as opposed to urban settings?
 
I will not bother with the 7.62x39. I may get egged for saying so, but so be it - beyond 200 yards that milsurp crap ain't worth spit, and the chicom crap it is often chambered in isn't either.

To get a decent 7.62x39 that you can stake your life on (and potentially that of your family in a SHTF scenario) - you will need to spend big bucks. You will also need to reload to get the most out of the cartridge and the gun.
 
I will not bother with the 7.62x39. I may get egged for saying so, but so be it - beyond 200 yards that milsurp crap ain't worth spit, and the chicom crap it is often chambered in isn't either.

To get a decent 7.62x39 that you can stake your life on (and potentially that of your family in a SHTF scenario) - you will need to spend big bucks. You will also need to reload to get the most out of the cartridge and the gun.

Nonesense:bsFlag:
 
bluemike807;I have my grandfathers savage 303 lever action{beautiful and acurate} They were very popular in the 1930's and ammo everywhere and cheap. To answer your question: A box of 20rds will cost $75 cnd now these days....I don't think the 7.62x39 will ever hit $3.75 a round{before taxes}....but then again....My grandfather probably didn't either!:)
 
Getting back to the RCMP and ammo amount thing....does anyone have additional house insurance costs because of large amounts of ammo. In case of a fire I can't imagine firefighters wanting to enter a house fire where they are aware of 5000 rds of ammo in wooden crates burning in the basement....same question for powder?

Relax; I can hear it already,NO I'm not a firefighter or a cop or an insurance guy,just aquestion I always wondered and for obvious reasons never asked the above types of individuals.:)
 
SKS noob question..

I have my first SKS "coming in the mail" from a well known EE vendor.

I purchased a cardboard box of 1000 rnds marked FMJ 124grain 7.62x39. Is this the same round that's in the wood crates I seeing some of the photos?? My box is labelled mil surp Sellier and Bellot.

thanks
 
I will not bother with the 7.62x39. I may get egged for saying so, but so be it - beyond 200 yards that milsurp crap ain't worth spit, and the chicom crap it is often chambered in isn't either.

To get a decent 7.62x39 that you can stake your life on (and potentially that of your family in a SHTF scenario) - you will need to spend big bucks. You will also need to reload to get the most out of the cartridge and the gun.

I'm not an egg thrower, just thought Id add my perspective. The biggest draw to milsurp is price. These guys couldnt pssibly stock up like that on new factory ammo. Not without ALOT of cash. The other thing is, we want to get it while its cheap and before its gone, not because of ballistic performance. The nice thing about Czech M43 is its reliability. It rarely fails and will last a lifetime in 2 layers of heavy sealed plastic. This is key in a SHTF scenario as you can rely on it. It has proven to be devastating at close range. Its pretty much a spitzer .30-30 so expecting any long range performance is redundant. But for defending yourself inside 50 yds in an SKS or CZ 858, its tough to beat. A bigger cartridge would be better sutied to long range, but how much sniping will you be doing running for your life? Thats more of an offensive move. And hell, when you can spray 1200 rnds for 200 bucks, why not? Its got more jam than .22 LR and is almost as cheap. I love it for 50-100 yd plinking, and will have my AIA M10A1 soon for serious handloading to see what it can do past 200 yds.
 
Wow,drool! Does anyone know if there is an ammo amount # that the RCMP will have issue with, or if it's properly stored non-issue?

You allowed to store a "reasonable amount of ammo" at your place. I suspect that my definition of "reasonable" might differ from someone else's

For maximum storage limit I thought the law states you are only allowed 40,000rd of centerfire cartridges? I want to be wrong so please correct me if that is not true.

The Firearms Act only says a "reasonable quantity". AFAIK, that has never been defined in a court.

The NRCAN regs state 225kg net explosive quantity, which is the powder in the cartridges. Looking at my Hornady manual, the max charge weight listed for a 123gr bullet is 28.5gr. Using the 28.5gr charge weight will allow you to have 121,834 rounds before crossing the limit. If the charge weight is 25.0gr then you get 138,891 rounds. That shouldn't be a problem for most of us, aside from zZ_denis and maybe Norseman.:D

I really doubt that the RCMP cares that much about some guy with 100,000 rounds of ammo in storage for a rainy day.

Nobody is keeping track of it, but if the police came through your house for another reason, they might get interested in it. According to mouthpiece, he has dealt with clients that have been charged with improper storage of ammo, based on the NRCAN requirements. Would you get charged for having too much ammo? Possibly. I don't think anyone can give you a definitive answer because the laws are not well defined and it would depend on the police and crown attorney involved in the case.

Mark
 
SKS noob question..

I have my first SKS "coming in the mail" from a well known EE vendor.

I purchased a cardboard box of 1000 rnds marked FMJ 124grain 7.62x39. Is this the same round that's in the wood crates I seeing some of the photos?? My box is labelled mil surp Sellier and Bellot.

thanks

Exactly the same ammo, just repackaged.
 
plinko 777 and stevo

thanks. .. WILDO

The Russian Izzy '54 is in the mail and I am thinking about a Chinese version to add to the colloection. Marstar ? elsewhere ?
 
I will not bother with the 7.62x39. I may get egged for saying so, but so be it - beyond 200 yards that milsurp crap ain't worth spit, and the chicom crap it is often chambered in isn't either.

To get a decent 7.62x39 that you can stake your life on (and potentially that of your family in a SHTF scenario) - you will need to spend big bucks. You will also need to reload to get the most out of the cartridge and the gun.
lol... In one sentence you just demonstrated to the world your level of experience.

:cheers:
 
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