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I have an interesting question that some of you guys can probably answer. I want a semi auto that I can plink with and shoot some 7.62x51 nato surplus ammo through, then I would like to go hunt deer with it as well. I know the sks and m14 are popular plinkers, but I don't want to buy a whole whack of guns. The sks is a pure plinker, and 7.62x39 is not quite as good for hunting beyond 150 yard. M14 is 12 pounds. Ouch. What would you get? I do like the look of black rifles with pinned mags too.
 
If your deadset on a semi-auto .308 (7.62), the M14 is pretty much the rifle your looking for. The 12 pounds weight? With a few little mods, I'm sure you could lean out your M14, although I'm not quite sure how myself. I'm sure M14Doctor, or users more fluent with M14s will chime in on how to lighten up your M14.

That being said- you did post this in the hunting section. Are you planning on hunting with said rifle? If so, please, PLEASE, consider bolt actions. When considering bolt action rifles, it opens up much more options, like a Remington 700, Savage Axis XP, etc.

In my opinion though, between the M14 and the SKS, I'd go with the M14, just because I'm pathologically afraid of the cosmoline gremlin that the SKS brings, although my fear is completely unjustified, as cosmo is hardly worth being scared of.
 
I was hoping to get a plinker that I could hunt with, but maybe I should just go with a 30 06 left hand bolt, BLR or BAR. I sort of wanted a 300 win mag and a 308. The 308 would also be used for blasting off surplus ammo, and smaller game. Bad idea maybe. Lol.
 
Hungsolo said:
I was hoping to get a plinker that I could hunt with, but maybe I should just go with a 30 06 left hand bolt, BLR or BAR. I sort of wanted a 300 win mag and a 308. The 308 would also be used for blasting off surplus ammo, and smaller game. Bad idea maybe. Lol.
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Yes- especially the small game part.
 
the .308 win is widely used as a varmint gun and depending on bullet weight and construction, it can do an entrance / exit hole the size of a grapefruit or just the size of the caliber.
 
ok, the 308,'06 and the 300 are ALL THE SAME - the only difference is SPEED- so you compensate for that by being a better stalker-ie you GET CLOSER- but with a corresponding increase in powder consumption- and we're only talking about a difference of less than 50 feet of effective range - 267 vs 276vs 325-and that's in yards- however when you go to the 300, you give up 2 rounds typically in the the magazine, and your powder consumed goes from somewhere in the 50 grain range in the 06 to 70 and better in the 300- the sks et al are in a whole different ballpark- they're a light 30/30- so the rules that apply to the 30/30 also apply to them-and they're a differnt BORE DIAMETER- 311 vs 308- i don't have one in my battery and WON'T have one b/c it's useless for my kind of hunting -250 yards and better at 5000 ft- even the whitetails grow big at those altitudes
 
djmay71 said:
If your deadset on a semi-auto .308 (7.62), the M14 is pretty much the rifle your looking for. The 12 pounds weight? With a few little mods, I'm sure you could lean out your M14, although I'm not quite sure how myself. I'm sure M14Doctor, or users more fluent with M14s will chime in on how to lighten up your M14.

That being said- you did post this in the hunting section. Are you planning on hunting with said rifle? If so, please, PLEASE, consider bolt actions. When considering bolt action rifles, it opens up much more options, like a Remington 700, Savage Axis XP, etc.

In my opinion though, between the M14 and the SKS, I'd go with the M14, just because I'm pathologically afraid of the cosmoline gremlin that the SKS brings, although my fear is completely unjustified, as cosmo is hardly worth being scared of.
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lighten the m14?????? not bloody likely-there was a LIVELY discussion about that just last week
 
if you want to plink get an sks, you could hunt with it but i wouldn,t. Nice bolt for hunting wont do you wrong
 
I don't understand why people think the .308 isn't good for hunting 'big' game. If you know your ballistics you can keep 10 on a dinner plate at 600 yards/metres and they're still supersonic out past 900 m / 1000 yards as long as they leave the rifle in the 2800fps or faster range... More deer have fallen to .30-30 and .303 in this continent than we can imagine.
 
AikiNut said:
I don't understand why people think the .308 isn't good for hunting 'big' game. If you know your ballistics you can keep 10 on a dinner plate at 600 yards/metres and they're still supersonic out past 900 m / 1000 yards as long as they leave the rifle in the 2800fps or faster range... More deer have fallen to .30-30 and .303 in this continent than we can imagine.
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id shoot my 308 at anything. im not hunting elephats or grizzlies so a 308 is more than adequate and more accurate than I am
 
Keller said:
You're not going to find a whole lot of surplus 7.62x51 around these days, 7.62x39 is still fairly plentiful though.
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that's about the only one, though- 06 is scarcer than 308/7.62 NATO, and the others are more scare than that, unless you run into a bunch of 8mm mauser or somehting oddball
 
Bananatole said:
id shoot my 308 at anything. im not hunting elephats or grizzlies so a 308 is more than adequate and more accurate than I am
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x2. I decided to simplify things and 308 is the only rifle caliber I intend to keep. Mainly because of all the awesome non-restricted rifles in that caliber (M14 clones, RFB, FNAR etc).
Oh, and it is adequate for all the big game in NA.
 
I think it's pretty simple. I need lots of guns. Haha. My only reason for wanting a 30 06 or 300 win is because I would want to hunt moose and elk where there is a chance grizzly can come around. 7.62x39 is the cheapest milsurp ammo. Maybe a mini 30 is in my future. Lot of money for a gun to run corrosive ammo through, but I've heard if you clean them, it doesn't matter. Then I can look for a good left handed 300 win mag or 338 win mag. I don't want any exotic calibres.
 
If you want a semi-auto 308 rifle then you're pretty much looking at the M305 Norinco, browning, or winchester offerings. There is also the XCR and RFB, but those are modern military patterned.

Not to be brutal, but I think after you drop 1k+ on a semi you'll not want to plink with it unless it's an m305.
 
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