Got a silly question about ammo interchangeability. Has anyone tried firing .30 cal or 30.06 ammo in a 7.62 nagant. Obviously its not recommended but 7.62 is soo close to 30.06 im wondering if it would work. 7.62 mm converted to inches is actually .2994 (or 6/10000 of a inch smaller). So so close to .30. Reason im asking is the availability of the stuff is about zero right now.
7.62x54R Ammo
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I think it is good that you asked first before going off like some mad scientist, stark raving mad, haha, just kidding, The only stupid questions is the one you don't ask, It's good your not ashamed of what people might say, Math is your friend!!!!! By the way does'nt Delseline's have some,if I spelled that correctly? if not try districorp.
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Some Finn Mosins can do quite nicely with .308'' diameter bullets. some other not so good; it all depends on the model and barrel manufacturer.
As for ammo interchangeability, no, they aren't.
In the U.S.A.s some Mosins got rechambered for 30-06 but these ''Bannerman conversions'' were deemed as unsafe; whether it was because of the bad rechambering job or different max pressures, I don't know.
PP.
As for ammo interchangeability, no, they aren't.
In the U.S.A.s some Mosins got rechambered for 30-06 but these ''Bannerman conversions'' were deemed as unsafe; whether it was because of the bad rechambering job or different max pressures, I don't know.
PP.
Sounds like a novel idea but you can only shoot ammo in a gun that it is chambered for.
There are hundreds of guns chambered in 30 cal. The ammo is not interchangeable.
If you load your own, you can use the same bullets to make different ammo.
So, please don't shoot your 30:06 ammo in a Nagant.
Cheers
There are hundreds of guns chambered in 30 cal. The ammo is not interchangeable.
If you load your own, you can use the same bullets to make different ammo.
So, please don't shoot your 30:06 ammo in a Nagant.
Cheers
Here is a side by side comparison of the 30-06 & 7.62x54 Russian cases.
The case on the left is the 30-06. As you can see the 7.62x54R case is rimmed, & much shorter than the 30-06. The 30-06 uses a .308 diameter bullet, & the 7.62x54R is usually .311 in diameter. This is the same bullet used in the .303 British cartridge. It is suggested that you slug the barrel of your Russian firearm to get the exact measurment. I have seen some bore's as big as .314. You can load the 7.62x54R brass with .308 bullets but your accuracy will suffer.
The case on the left is the 30-06. As you can see the 7.62x54R case is rimmed, & much shorter than the 30-06. The 30-06 uses a .308 diameter bullet, & the 7.62x54R is usually .311 in diameter. This is the same bullet used in the .303 British cartridge. It is suggested that you slug the barrel of your Russian firearm to get the exact measurment. I have seen some bore's as big as .314. You can load the 7.62x54R brass with .308 bullets but your accuracy will suffer.
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Thanks so much for the responses. As you can tell Im a newb. Just got my PAL a week ago. Im gonna be a collector way more than a hunter/ shooter but whats the fun if you cant shoot the things right? Where I was confused is the second number in the ammo. For example 7.62x54R means you have a 7.62mm bullet and a rimmed cartridge thats 54mm long. Does that sound right? I guess ammo made in North american just has the caliber and then the Manufacture like .30 Winchester or .303 Savage. Hey Desporterizer feel like making me one cartridge with no powder in it. I wanna watch the action of the bolt as it loads/unloads... so I can practice 
Thanks so much for the responses. As you can tell Im a newb. Just got my PAL a week ago. Im gonna be a collector way more than a hunter/ shooter but whats the fun if you cant shoot the things right? Where I was confused is the second number in the ammo. For example 7.62x54R means you have a 7.62mm bullet and a rimmed cartridge thats 54mm long. Does that sound right? I guess ammo made in North american just has the caliber and then the Manufacture like .30 Winchester or .303 Savage. Hey Desporterizer feel like making me one cartridge with no powder in it. I wanna watch the action of the bolt as it loads/unloads... so I can practice
You might get more use out of snap caps. They are solid machined aluminum and you can fire the rifle on the rubber primers 'till the cows come home.
There is usually AZOOM snap caps in 7.62x54R on ePay.
It's NOT a crime to be a newb, we all started somewhere
. Some people just don't have the balls to admit it. If you have a question about something, ask it here before you get into trouble. 99% of the guy's here will help you out, the other 1% will be trolls Hey Desporterizer, feel like making me one cartridge with no powder in it. I wanna watch the action of the bolt as it loads/unloads... so I can practice
As Skirsons pointed out, you would be much better served by getting snapcaps. BTW where are you located? & what type of firearm do you have? If you are close to Ottawa I would give you a couple of dummy rounds in 7.62x54r.
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ammo nameing.
well thats a long story
lets start with black powder ammo 30-30, 45-70, 44-40 30-40 etc.... First number is for the caliber, second is how many grains of black powder
next lets look at the 30-06 which was an improvement over the 30-03. 30 is the caliber while the 06 and 03 were the year it was accepted by the US military. from the same family we get 25-06 and 338-06 which were wildcats that have made it to factory production.
now were getting into more north american rounds, .308 .270 .280 normaly the number is followed by the name of the company that started offering the loading, ie ruger winchester savage federal etc...
confused yet...
metric ammo, first, 7.62x54R 7.62x51 7.63x38 8x56 7x57 6.5x55 ect.... easy caliber and lenght, and a quick note the calibers are nominal so 7.62 can be .308" to .313" depending on what your shooting.
then you get stuff like 7mm mauser, 8mm mauser, 6.5 swiss which are for the most part just other names for the same cartridge listed above.
wildcats are all sorts of other names 250-3000 was a 25 caliber (.257") that was designed to fire a projectile at 3000 feet/sec
more
577-450 that was taking an older British army 577 cartridge and necking it down 450 caliber.
so its all simple.... really.
well thats a long story
lets start with black powder ammo 30-30, 45-70, 44-40 30-40 etc.... First number is for the caliber, second is how many grains of black powder
next lets look at the 30-06 which was an improvement over the 30-03. 30 is the caliber while the 06 and 03 were the year it was accepted by the US military. from the same family we get 25-06 and 338-06 which were wildcats that have made it to factory production.
now were getting into more north american rounds, .308 .270 .280 normaly the number is followed by the name of the company that started offering the loading, ie ruger winchester savage federal etc...
confused yet...
metric ammo, first, 7.62x54R 7.62x51 7.63x38 8x56 7x57 6.5x55 ect.... easy caliber and lenght, and a quick note the calibers are nominal so 7.62 can be .308" to .313" depending on what your shooting.
then you get stuff like 7mm mauser, 8mm mauser, 6.5 swiss which are for the most part just other names for the same cartridge listed above.
wildcats are all sorts of other names 250-3000 was a 25 caliber (.257") that was designed to fire a projectile at 3000 feet/sec
more
577-450 that was taking an older British army 577 cartridge and necking it down 450 caliber.
so its all simple.... really.
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Not a smart idea, this is not .38spc/.357 magnum situation here ! You're talking about putting a smaller, much narrower at the head and unrimmed cartridge in a 7.62x54R chamber. If the rifle didn't blew up good luck trying to remove what is left of the case from the chamber.
Being new to the site and also using the Mosin, I was disappointed by the first reply to this question. Ignore it.
The other replies were thoughtful, informative and safety concious. 99% of users are smart, the remainder are simply smart a**es.
Sounds like a knowledgable group, and I look forward to being a member.
"There is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid answers."
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The other replies were thoughtful, informative and safety concious. 99% of users are smart, the remainder are simply smart a**es.
Sounds like a knowledgable group, and I look forward to being a member.
"There is no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid answers."
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