7.62x54r Lead Core Surplus??

[cigar_man]

Is there such a thing in Canada anymore?

At this point I would not even care if all I could get was corrosive surplus.

I see the U.S. of A seems to get all the lead core surplus due to their restrictions.

We are restricted to shooting lead core at our local club.

Is MFS the next best cheapest way to go, which by no means is really cheap.

 

[joelvca]

What restrictions are you facing - no steel core or no steel in the bullet (i.e. no steel jacket, either), as in does not stick to a magnet? Everything that I can remember seeing concerning MFS and Barnaul shows them using "bimetal" jackets, copper-clad steel, even on their soft-points. I think all military 7.62x54R ammo had steel/"bimetal"/"tombac" jacketed bullets, other than Russian original round nose load and early light ball production with cupro-nickel jackets, and ammo made for export by Yugoslavia (they did not officially use the cartridge), and probably subsequent Bosnian (Igman) and Serbian (Privi Partizan) production since they inherited the facilities. If anyone else did load non-magnetic bullets in type L light ball or type D heavy ball cartridges, I'd like to know for reference, even if the ammo is not commonly available. By the way, not all heavy ball is lead core, whatever the jacket - both Hungary and Czechoslovakia made steel-core heavy ball.

edit - I have a faint recollection that early Chinese light ball might have had gilding-metal jackets.

Regards,
Joel

 

[delavan]

That wave of "steel-core" not allowed at the range is happening at the wrong time for me...I'm new to the firearms world (civvie-side I should say). I'm still waiting for my possession/aquisition card to show up, but was planning to grab a Mosin and an SKS and shoot cheap AMMO by the crate...now I'm moving to the NWT and the one range close to where I go just banned steel-core last year....SAD I suffer from withdrawal syndrome for the SKS I never had lol...

I think whether the core of the ammo you managed to get is actually steel-cored or only the jacket is, somebody will show up with a magnet and/or false positive most of it...the cheap and fun russian mirsulp ERA is fading out IMHO

 

[chadeech]

unfortunately true if a magnet sticks it is out at most indoor ranges ,so milsurps become a summer outdoor only option for cheap fun
more or less stuck to 22lr plinking with occasional expensive ammo sessions in between
such is life

 

[kjohn]

Next they will be banning ammunition that makes a bang. More harmful than steel-anything ammo is the foul hot air given off by hand wringers and sissies that can't stand anyone actually having the guts to fire off a nice, big rifle.

I'm done.

 

[antiqueguy]

That wave of "steel-core" not allowed at the range is happening at the wrong time for me...I'm new to the firearms world (civvie-side I should say). I'm still waiting for my possession/aquisition card to show up, but was planning to grab a Mosin and an SKS and shoot cheap AMMO by the crate...now I'm moving to the NWT and the one range close to where I go just banned steel-core last year....SAD I suffer from withdrawal syndrome for the SKS I never had lol...

I think whether the core of the ammo you managed to get is actually steel-cored or only the jacket is, somebody will show up with a magnet and/or false positive most of it...the cheap and fun russian mirsulp ERA is fading out IMHO

you can shoot all you want on any land that is legal to do so(ie no city's/towns with bylaws ect) it does not have to be at a range

 

[RobertMcC]

Anything w/ a red band on the base, silver tip, black tip. Is steel core. Most not is lead. Basically have to go on 7.62x54R.net and research, whats steel core and whats not.

 

[joelvca]

Anything w/ a red band on the base, ...

Are you referring to red primer sealant, bullet sealant, or something else? I don't think either sealant color is a reliable indicator of bullet type.

Anything w/ ... silver tip, black tip. Is steel core. Most not is lead.

Yes, but to expand a bit, although AP was and is generally black tipped, earlier production of LPS (by most countries) was silver(or white)-tipped, and Czech & Hungarian steel-core heavy ball were (are?) white-over-yellow tipped, most later-production LPS-type ball and all PS (7N1) and SNB (7N14 enhanced-penetration) sniper ammo (all with mild or hardened steel core) have no tip color or distinctive sealant color. Similarly, most steel-jacketed lead-core light ball and some heavy ball lack distinctive markings. Therefor:

Basically have to go on 7.62x54R.net and research, whats steel core and whats not.

Indeed, and http://www.mosinnagant.net/i3tro4.asp as well.

Regards,
Joel