7.62X54R surplus: Chinese vs. Bulgarian

I've only ever shot the Chinese milsurp...

It does great in my '34 Tula Mosin Nagant.

I've also used it in my son's '43 Tula SVT-40 with no issues... and that was during the holiday cold snap of -30 C !!!
 
Ganderite said:
Axle grease works just fine. I happen to have a container of moly grease (from Crappy Tire) in my range kit for lubing bolts, so I use that to lube bullets when needed.

The velocity drops with grease and the SD improves. A handy trick if your ammo turns out to be too hot one day. Grease drops pressure about 5,000 psi.
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Good tip. That's handy to know for any type of ammo.
 
crashcollins said:
Curious as to how you found that a little grease on the bullet drops velocity any significant amount. FYI my opinion is that putting any oil or grease on a bullet or case to get it to work is a big no no. The only time I have ever heard of lubing cases was with the old Oerlikon 20mm. gun!
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People regularly shoot alox lubed cast bullets well over 2000 fps. I agree that I wouldn't put any on the case though.
 
SVT chinese/ czech, / bulgarian

Shot 120 rds yesterday, -10 degrees:ar15:

Chinese most accurate, , out of 5 shots, 3 would be <2" then a flyer, as good as my old Garand which has much better sights of course. Overcast day, my old eyes do better with irons on warm sunny days. 2 FTF, good primer indent, shot the second time I loaded them.

Czech, grey coated looking ammo, cycled nicely , shot patterns not groups, none of my rifles like this stuff!

circle 10, Bulgarian I think, worked best, consistent 2.5-3" groups.

Fun rifle but still a PITA to clean!


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Finally made it to the range with the 1943 Tula SVT-40 I bought before Christmas.

I used Chinese milsurp and my SVT cycled well.

These are my first 10 rounds... at 100 yards, standing, using iron sights only !!



 
I dont know which factory chinese I used, but it was complete horse turd.

SVT didnt cycle. FTE and stoveiping. The steel cases were so thin the casing would not come out of the chamber!!

So I used the rest in my mosin, and it was extremely smelly and dirty. 1 out of 5 didnt fire. Harder to work the bolt, but not as hard as the SVT with the fluted chamber.

If I find the factory code for this chinese ammo I will let you know. It was the worst ammo I have ever used. Edit: it is 55/71. 55 at the 12oclock, 71 at the 6.

I have used russian surplus, MFS, Sellier and Bellot and LVE. All with no complaints.
 
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results may vary

I find the Chinese stuff to be the most accurate for my 43TULA PU, several 1.25-1.5" 5 shot groups at 100 meters. Privi shoots really well in my PU but the Chinese was better.I agree, not an SVT friendly round in my experience.
 
jethunter said:
People regularly shoot alox lubed cast bullets well over 2000 fps. I agree that I wouldn't put any on the case though.
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Proper lube on a cast bullet is OK I know but figured that lube (especially axle grease ) on a much faster and higher pressure FMJ round would not be a good idea! But then again I've never tried it and really wouldn't want to try it.

If I have a problem firing particular ammo out of a particular gun; I buy/reload some different ammo for it and move on.
 
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