7.63 Mauser

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I am new to reloading and I want to reload for the Broomhandle Mauser. The bullet diameter is 0.308, same as the M-1 Carbine. If I was to use a 100 grain jacketed bullet for the M-1, would it work for the Mauser? I am not sure if FMJ RN rifle and pilstol bullets would be the same size even though the grain might be the same. My main concern is a rifle bullet length being to long and cause a compressed load in the Mauser cartridge.
 
Hornady makes a 86 grain bullet for the 30 mauser. I think you can use bullets meant for 7.62 toakarev. I put through mostly downloaded Czech 7.62 tokarev rounds through my broomhandle.
 
Do not use factory/military Tokarev rounds in it for safety sake. I think I have some cast data here if you need it......Harold
 
Thanks for the answers but they don't address my question. I already have some 100 grain .308 FMJ RN for the my M1 carbine and I just want to know if they are the same length as 100 grain .308 pistol bullets so I can use them for my Mauser.
 
I don't think you should. I damaged a colt 1908 barrel in .380 acp when I first started reloading. I was using 9mm bullets in the 100 grain range, after a while cases started getting stuck in the chamber and I needed a rod to tap them out. It seems the chamber ballooned a bit and the cases were a little ballooned shape. The slide was hard to move back and forth so I used a grinder to slim down the chamber area, now I've been looking for a barrel and firing pin parts for the past 20 years. You keep on hearing that if you use a heavier bullet and seat it further in the case, pressure increases.
 
Hornady makes a 86 grain bullet for the 30 mauser. I think you can use bullets meant for 7.62 toakarev. I put through mostly downloaded Czech 7.62 tokarev rounds through my broomhandle.

do not ever yse 7.62x25 in a mauser broomhandle 7.62x25 is a very hot round not only that the jackets are made from steel its a soft steel but not as soft as copper
 
do not ever yse 7.62x25 in a mauser broomhandle 7.62x25 is a very hot round not only that the jackets are made from steel its a soft steel but not as soft as copper

This argument is almost as redundant as the 9mm Luger or 45 ACP one.
There was another thread on this which was hotly debated.
Personally I would guess that 7.62 x 25 is too hot. But I do not own a Broomhandle and unless I've a lottery win...likely will not any time soon.
But if I did...I'd not run FSU Milsurp through it...seems like a bad decision IMO
 
That and people have destroyed broomhandles doing just that. Seeing the 7.62x25 is also used the PPSH SMG it is too hot.Harold
 
Yeah I have no intention of using the Tokarev ammo in the broomhandle. I have heard the same about the Tokarev being too hot of a load outside of CGN.
 
I personally use the 90gr Hornady XTP so I can't share my own experience, but since no one is willing to answer the actual question (that happens frequently) I thought I'd share my thoughts.

To address your question - I've read that some people do use the _110_ gr bullets for the M1 to reload for the broomhandle. That gets mentioned pretty much every time someone asks that question. Search further back in this forum.

I've never seen or heard of a 100gr bullet made specifically for the broomhandle, I suspect that the load data was developed for the M1 bullet being adapted for the broomhandle.

Several things worthy of noting, and, yes some of this is being overly cautious, but that's how reloading is:

When you start loading you will see that the case is far from full so your chance of a compressed load is low.
When you use a heavier bullet, you use a lighter load, so see above.
Obviously do start at the minimum the manual recommends.
Seat as little as possible withing the parameters above.

All of this should give you a safe starting load. You will note I did not say anything about your cartridge's overall length being within the max / to fit the magazine. That's because I would single load the first trial rounds if they are too long for the magazine.

Now watch for pressure signs. If none, start adjusting your seating depth _very slowly_ until you are happy (seating depth affects the pressure VERY quickly).
Still no pressure signs? Start increasing the powder _very slowly_ until you have consistent action cycling.

Having a press available at the range for quick load development or having an antique broomhandle makes this process go faster. Good luck!
 
Hello buzz43t. My 7.63 Mauser load is:
5.8 gr. Unique / 100 gr. Speer 1/2 jacket (.308 Plinkers) / WSP primers / Starline brass / OAL 1.338 inch
FYI
Fiocchi factory (88 gr.) 1.356 inch
Kynoch factory (85 gr.) 1.364 inch
Cheers. bogus
 
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