7.63 x 25 (.30 Mauser)

I reload for both the C96 and TT-33. I worked up as mild a load I could to get the C-96 to cycle and interestingly enough it was good enough for the TT-33 as well. The Tokarev may be able to take a hotter load but why push an almost 80 yr old gun if there is no need?

Also, the commercially available 30 mauser ammo seems quite hot as well...

I _am_ having trouble finding bullets though, so I might start buying surplus tokarev ammo, but I would suggest dumping ALL the powder and reloading with a known powder... (that's what I'd do anyway - I don't want to take risks with an antique pistol)
 
KotKotofeich said:
I reload for both the C96 and TT-33. I worked up as mild a load I could to get the C-96 to cycle and interestingly enough it was good enough for the TT-33 as well. The Tokarev may be able to take a hotter load but why push an almost 80 yr old gun if there is no need?

Also, the commercially available 30 mauser ammo seems quite hot as well...

I _am_ having trouble finding bullets though, so I might start buying surplus tokarev ammo, but I would suggest dumping ALL the powder and reloading with a known powder... (that's what I'd do anyway - I don't want to take risks with an antique pistol)
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Yes proper bullets are unobtanium.
I tried loading 110 gr 30 carbine and 86 gr 308 hornady, none shoot anywhere close to surplus ammo in my experience. So I just shoot surplus.
If any one has worked out a good load and can share I might give a try. Has any one used cast bullets for Tok 33?

G76
 
KotKotofeich said:
I reload for both the C96 and TT-33. I worked up as mild a load I could to get the C-96 to cycle and interestingly enough it was good enough for the TT-33 as well. The Tokarev may be able to take a hotter load but why push an almost 80 yr old gun if there is no need?

Also, the commercially available 30 mauser ammo seems quite hot as well...

I _am_ having trouble finding bullets though, so I might start buying surplus tokarev ammo, but I would suggest dumping ALL the powder and reloading with a known powder... (that's what I'd do anyway - I don't want to take risks with an antique pistol)
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just don't use Czech ammo in the tt33
 
BS. I defy you to find a single case of a TT having ANY problem with ANY factory 7.62x25 ammo. You won't find one. Unfortunately for the CZ52, you will.
Read any East Bloc manual or check the labels on any East Bloc 7.62x25 ammo. It was all made for both pistol and SMG use.
 
Ardent said:
NO!

I have a C96 in excellent shape (from loki above), and just the same know I would destroy it by shooting the Tork 7.62. They are not interchangeable even if people have gotten away with it, you can fire .30 Mauser in a Tork as mentioned by others, but NOT the other way around also as mentioned above by others.

I bought 500 rounds of .30 Mauser PVRI from Budget Shooter Supply / Henry, great stuff.
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Glad to see you're feeding the old girl and getting enjoyment out of her. Did you instal the spring pack I gave you ;)?

KotKotofeich said:
I reload for both the C96 and TT-33. I worked up as mild a load I could to get the C-96 to cycle and interestingly enough it was good enough for the TT-33 as well. The Tokarev may be able to take a hotter load but why push an almost 80 yr old gun if there is no need?

Also, the commercially available 30 mauser ammo seems quite hot as well...

I _am_ having trouble finding bullets though, so I might start buying surplus tokarev ammo, but I would suggest dumping ALL the powder and reloading with a known powder... (that's what I'd do anyway - I don't want to take risks with an antique pistol)
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I'm happy to see that you have had luck with your loads :D. Hope the old girl is treating you well.

If you can find them I see that Hornady makes 86gr bullets close to the 85 gr spec (click here for the Hornady bullet). Perhaps see if Henry from Budget shooter will special order some in, I'm sure the Broomhandle and Tok owners would clean out those bullets fast if he were to bring them in ;).

I'm not sure but aren't the surplus primers corrosive? No big deal of course but just to make sure everyone knows if they are or aren't.
 
I believe you are correct about the primers. Some later Chinese x25 might have non-corrosive primers, but any milsurp Tokarev ammo from the 1940s-1970s will surely be corrosive.
 
loki_81 said:
If you can find them I see that Hornady makes 86gr bullets close to the 85 gr spec (click here for the Hornady bullet). Perhaps see if Henry from Budget shooter will special order some in, I'm sure the Broomhandle and Tok owners would clean out those bullets fast if he were to bring them in ;).

I'm not sure but aren't the surplus primers corrosive? No big deal of course but just to make sure everyone knows if they are or aren't.
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TradeEx (site sponser) carries the Hornady bullets for reloading
 
loki_81 said:
...Perhaps see if Henry from Budget shooter will special order some in...
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He has them listed, but the store is closed until the 3rd...

loki_81 said:
I'm not sure but aren't the surplus primers corrosive? No big deal of course but just to make sure everyone knows if they are or aren't.
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In most cases the primers are indeed corrosive, soak everything in Hoppe's 9 right after shooting and clean ASAP. But if you have a legit antique with an antique letter, then you shouldn't stinge on ammunition or reloading supplies... I'm not ;) If you are only trying to keep a more recent broomhandle shooting, remaking surplus ammunition may be more reasonable...

OneBarfly said:
TradeEx (site sponser) carries the Hornady bullets for reloading
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Oooh! And they have XTP! I, for one, am jumping on this given that Hornady is suspending production of 30 cal bullets to concentrate on other, more in demand, calibers for now.
 
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