7.65x53 Mauser

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I am thinking of having a barrel chambered for 7.65x53 Argentine. I am trying to locate someone with a reamer. If you might know of such a person/business, could you please forward the information to me. A sporter rifle for sale would work just as well.
Thank you in advance for any/all replies.
 
Why 7.65x53 Mauser?
This is one of the first and oldest smokeless powder cartridges, aren't there better choices, with a more bullet selection?
 
I quite enjoy my sporterized, sometime in the 1960's or '70's, Argentine Mauser 98.
Amazing how the cartridge is essentially the .308 Winchester / 7.62x51 NATO, yet it was born 63 years before that cartridge.
I like to refer to the cartridge by its Scottish name ".303 Fraser Rimless".
It is usually more accurate than the typical Lee-Enfield & given that I still have somewhere north of 1,000 of the old Western 180 grain bullets & ~3,000 210 grain cast bullets, I can shoot it to my heart's content.
 
I apologise for my poor photography skills, but here is mine. I've yet to get the 4th scope base hole D&T'ed as I abhor 1 piece Leupold mounts, reinstall one of my rapidly diminishing supply of banded sling swivels, as well as install open sights on the carbine-length 19" barrel. I used one of my spare Husqvarna Model 146 stocks in place of the sporterised military stock that was on it when I bought it. Somewhere in its previous life, the hinged trigger guard & floor-plate assembly was removed & a military one was installed in its place. As befits its bob-tail barrel, one of my Bausch & Lomb BALVAR 1.5-6x20 scopes was installed. I also have yet to hollow out the butt as it is quite rear heavy as a result of the short barrel. At some point, the fore-end will be shortened & an ebony fore-end tip will be installed, at which time the stock will be re-finished with Danish oil.

Its favourite jacketed loads are PPU brass, pretty well any non-magnum LR primer, an equal load of 48.0 grs. of any of Alliant Reloder 15, Hodgdon's Varget or some of my remaining stash of IMR4320 behind the Western [marketed by Cam-Pro] 180 grain RNSP bullet, or 21 grs. of Nobel Magnum 6 behind my 206 gr. hard cast BRTORNFPGCTL bullet from NOE's 314299 mould.

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jamesharrison said:
I apologise for my poor photography skills, but here is mine. I've yet to get the 4th scope base hole D&T'ed as I abhor 1 piece Leupold mounts, reinstall one of my rapidly diminishing supply of banded sling swivels, as well as install open sights on the carbine-length 19" barrel. I used one of my spare Husqvarna Model 146 stocks in place of the sporterised military stock that was on it when I bought it. Somewhere in its previous life, the hinged trigger guard & floor-plate assembly was removed & a military one was installed in its place. As befits its bob-tail barrel, one of my Bausch & Lomb BALVAR 1.5-6x20 scopes was installed. I also have yet to hollow out the butt as it is quite rear heavy as a result of the short barrel. At some point, the fore-end will be shortened & an ebony fore-end tip will be installed, at which time the stock will be re-finished with Danish oil.

Its favourite jacketed loads are PPU brass, pretty well any non-magnum LR primer, an equal load of 48.0 grs. of any of Alliant Reloder 15, Hodgdon's Varget or some of my remaining stash of IMR4320 behind the Western [marketed by Cam-Pro] 180 grain RNSP bullet, or 21 grs. of Nobel Magnum 6 behind my 206 gr. hard cast BRTORNFPGCTL bullet from NOE's 314299 mould.

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Nice. Gotta love those old Mausers. - dan
 
mephisto002 said:
Why 7.65x53 Mauser?
This is one of the first and oldest smokeless powder cartridges, aren't there better choices, with a more bullet selection?
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This cartridge in a modern style firearm with modern powders should closely equal the 06 ? Some people just want something different than the next guy, myself included. Also I know where I can accrue some very reasonably priced ammo.
 
HIGHLANDBEAGLES said:
This cartridge in a modern style firearm with modern powders should closely equal the 06 ? Some people just want something different than the next guy, myself included. Also I know where I can accrue some very reasonably priced ammo.
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At some time ago, I got most all to reload on CGN - including a set of RCBS Full Length Sizing dies. Tradex sold PPU brass. I have a supply of Hornady and Woodleigh 0.312" bullets of several weights. I have a Cavalry Carbine version and an Infantry version of the Argentine 1909 (a Mauser 98 action made by Mauser in Germany) in that 7.65x53 chambering. Argentina also produced their own rifles under licence from Mauser at their own Argentina armoury. I never looked in a store, so I do not know if ammo is still available to buy - for a time, an acquaintance advises that a popular Winnipeg store sold these rifles with chamber reamed out to 30-06 - the barrel was still original, but I guess enough "hunters" did not care - one would think that a 7.65-06 might work, but I am not sure of the throating requirements of such a chambering - it won't be a standard 30-06, for sure! - although standard 30-06 ammo likely chambered properly into those worked over rifles.
 
jamesharrison said:
I apologise for my poor photography skills, but here is mine. I've yet to get the 4th scope base hole D&T'ed as I abhor 1 piece Leupold mounts, reinstall one of my rapidly diminishing supply of banded sling swivels, as well as install open sights on the carbine-length 19" barrel. I used one of my spare Husqvarna Model 146 stocks in place of the sporterised military stock that was on it when I bought it. Somewhere in its previous life, the hinged trigger guard & floor-plate assembly was removed & a military one was installed in its place. As befits its bob-tail barrel, one of my Bausch & Lomb BALVAR 1.5-6x20 scopes was installed. I also have yet to hollow out the butt as it is quite rear heavy as a result of the short barrel. At some point, the fore-end will be shortened & an ebony fore-end tip will be installed, at which time the stock will be re-finished with Danish oil.

Its favourite jacketed loads are PPU brass, pretty well any non-magnum LR primer, an equal load of 48.0 grs. of any of Alliant Reloder 15, Hodgdon's Varget or some of my remaining stash of IMR4320 behind the Western [marketed by Cam-Pro] 180 grain RNSP bullet, or 21 grs. of Nobel Magnum 6 behind my 206 gr. hard cast BRTORNFPGCTL bullet from NOE's 314299 mould.

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Would this rifle possibly have originally been a Calvary Carbine ?
 
mephisto002 said:
Why 7.65x53 Mauser?
This is one of the first and oldest smokeless powder cartridges, aren't there better choices, with a more bullet selection?
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It's actually a pretty decent choice, other than it requires .311 diameter bullets, which are available, and choices are very limited.

Its case capacity is so close to the 7.62x51(308 Winchester) that it's almost identical. In a good, strong rifle, such as a K98 Mauser or even a Remington 700, in which it was chambered under the "Classic" moniker. Loads can easily be transposed from the 308 Winchester tables.

There used to be lots of sporting rifles around.

OP, it's your choice, but if you do find a reamer, get the neck and throat diameters ground to .308 diameter specs, so you can easily use a .308 bore barrel.

Go on Ebay, and type in "7.65x53 Mauser chamber reamers." There are a couple of sellers out of Europe that will make up the reamer exactly the way you want it, for half the price of the same reamer here.
 
HIGHLANDBEAGLES said:
Would this rifle possibly have originally been a Calvary Carbine ?
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FYI - the Infantry version that I have is 29 1/4" (74.3 cm) from face of closed bolt to muzzle crown. What I believe is the Calvary Carbine measures 22 7/16" (57 cm) from face of closed bolt to front end of the front sight apparatus - I think that is part of the bayonet mount - NOT the barrel muzzle which is down inside - perhaps 1/2" (1.3 cm) back from that. The Infantry version has a "straight bolt" whereas the Cavalry Carbine has a "turned down" bolt - both have matching serial number bolt to receiver and to main stock, and, as I recall a plethora of Argentine marks and symbols on various small parts, although I suspect most any other countries M98 Mauser stuff would fit. Picture below to show that both have the hinged floorplate - probably why this 1909 Mauser was so desirable - most of the "hard work" was already done if you wanted a "hinged floor plate" hunting rifle - I think many were converted or removed.

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The muzzle ends of the two rifles are/were different to each other:

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