7 MM Dakota

To seat that 195 Burger in most mag boxes, the bullet will take up just under an inch of interior cartridge, or around 22 grains of space, with the 378.
Big, long cases really need big long actions to make them work, hence the development of the short and fat (no personal insult intended) cases. An XL Magnum Action would make these class of cases really function to their fullest capability.

R.
 
To seat that 195 Burger in most mag boxes, the bullet will take up just under an inch of interior cartridge, or around 22 grains of space, with the 378.
Big, long cases really need big long actions to make them work, hence the development of the short and fat (no personal insult intended) cases. An XL Magnum Action would make these class of cases really function to their fullest capability.

R.

Yea for Sure Buddy - Im Just Kidding about the 7-378 LOL RJ
 
Yea for Sure Buddy - Im Just Kidding about the 7-378 LOL RJ

It's a real thing. Atkinson (gun writer) built an 8mm-378 ( so i had to try one), but the 378 case was necked up and down from 7mm to 510. As mentioned, you needed a big action (Mk V, or a modified P14 worked, and there was an outfit making stretched Mausers at one point). - dan
 
A 7-300 Norma would put 195s where they need to be and still feed from a magazine. Barrel life would be pretty short, but it would be a monster.

The 7-300 PRC would be sweet with Lapua brass, but even crappy Hornady brass is impossible to find. A 7-300 win mag or fast twist, custom throated 28 Nosler would be easier to feed in today's world.
 
180 ELDM has a higher bc and you can send it faster. I agree 7-300 win is by far most practical. A million options for inexpensive brass.
 
It's a real thing. Atkinson (gun writer) built an 8mm-378 ( so i had to try one), but the 378 case was necked up and down from 7mm to 510. As mentioned, you needed a big action (Mk V, or a modified P14 worked, and there was an outfit making stretched Mausers at one point). - dan

The Brevex Mausers be the extra length ones that were most sought after for long, magnum cartridge builds. Big money then & stupid high money now.
 
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The Brevex Mausers be the extra length ones that were most sought after for long, magnum cartridge builds. Big money then & stupid high money now.

I have seen a few of those over the years (and yes, very expensive), but there was a 'smith who's name I cant recall making super long Mausers from two actions (and very short ones from the left over bits). - dan
 
A 7-300 Norma would put 195s where they need to be and still feed from a magazine. Barrel life would be pretty short, but it would be a monster.

The 7-300 PRC would be sweet with Lapua brass, but even crappy Hornady brass is impossible to find. A 7-300 win mag or fast twist, custom throated 28 Nosler would be easier to feed in today's world.

Browning already offers a 28 Nosler in an 8 twist. Savage offers a... 8.44 or something like that? I forget. Point is there are at least a few options for a 28Nosler with twists in the 8-8.5 range.

Although I don't think the OP has much interest in factory rifles. Lol
 
Browning already offers a 28 Nosler in an 8 twist. Savage offers a... 8.44 or something like that? I forget. Point is there are at least a few options for a 28Nosler with twists in the 8-8.5 range.

Although I don't think the OP has much interest in factory rifles. Lol

Yup, but what is their freebore? Saami?
You want ~0.325" of freebore to seat 195s in a 28N so the bearing surface is at/above the shoulder-neck junction. That will push the COAL over 3.7", which may not play nice with some magazines.
We have alot of sweet options for big 7s but don't build something you can't feed.
 
I had a 7 Dakota built up a couple years back to the demise of my other hunting rifles that now collect dust. Haha. Fast 7mm's are where it's at and the Dakota obviously won me over. There are a few draw backs but really only two. 1. Scarce brass, but what isn't scarce these days! I ordered mine from Dakota through a company/importer in Quebec (if my memory serves me correct). That said, my brass still showed up with plenty of time before the rifle was finished by the gun smith. I'm pretty sure RCC would make some but I have no knowledge of going down that path. 2. Rare sized bolt face. Not really a big drawback but I'm sure this is the main reason why it never caught on. Too big for a standard Magnum and too small for a lapua bolt face. Not a problem for a custom build though.
The 28 Nosler and 7STW are sweet but so freekishly long. At the end of the day they are pretty much in the same ball park. Don't go mainstream, build a 7 Dakota and be "that guy"! (But lock down some brass first) haha ;)
 
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