7 x 61 Sharp and Hart

[FreedomIsn'tFree]

Glad to hear the 150 is working for you. I'm eager to get my reloads back to see how they work with the 1-10 twist, but after hearing what others have said here, I'm sure I'll be happy with them.

 

[Falconflyer]

I just found some 150 grain Winchester's in my stash of old bullets and I'll try those out before going out to purchase new bullets, just to be sure!

 

[dan belisle]

I have a Dumoulin Mauser in this cartridge. It's a great hunting round. - dan

 

[dead meat]

I recently acquired a S&L 7x61S&H rifle, mine is stamped 1in14 on the barrel. I haven't got dies for it but the reloads that came with it are 150 gr. Needs a new butt pad, the one on the rifle is as hard as hell.

 

[Falconflyer]

The S&L rifles are very high quality and have been ridiculed for being an inferior rear locking lug design but tests that I've read about stated that the action was actually stronger than Mauser 98 actions and in fact was the first choice of Roy Weatherby for his high pressure line of Wby cartridges.
My rifle is not an S&L but an FN Mauser with an Apex barrel and topped with a Leupold 3.5-10x40 Vx3.

 

[rokoro]

I have had a couple S&L rifles in 7x61 Both were/are good shooters. I still had one of them. 7x61 Super cases will take about 2 grs more powder than the 7x61re stamped cases to reach max pressures. I have found 140 and 150 bullets to be accurate in both rifles I have owned. The 150 gr partition is hard to beat on bigger game with the 140 Nosler Accubond and the 140 Barnes TTSX both being very good. IMR 4350 has been the BEST powder. With the Super cases start about 60 grs and work up. I have found about 63 grs has been near max in both my rifles and the most accurate. You may need to play with seating depth.

 

[Falconflyer]

Good info rokoro, thanks.
I've had my 140 grain Partitions and SST's up to 63 grains of IMR 4350 and the pressure was getting up there but I've since backed down to 62.7 which seems to work well. There's room for more powder even though my brass is all Re stamped but I won't go any higher and in fact may back down some more if it's going to be hard on the brass.
I had some 140 grain Rem pp bullets with 62.7 gr IMR 4350 that I put across my magnetospeed and they showed 3170 fps but that's the only load I've crono'd.

 

[Johnn Peterson]

My 7x61S&H is in a model 68DL Schultz & Larsen with a 1 - 10" twist. On it, I have a Leupold VARI-X III, 3.5x10. Early on I went through all my brass and have kept only the 7x61 Super. While I haven't, yet, done any in-depth accuracy load development and testing, I have basically settled on the Barnes TTSX in 140gr and 150gr coupled with IMR 4350 and CCI 250 primers. So far, my only use of the 7x61 in the field was on a successful Antelope draw/hunt in Alberta a few years back.

 

[diopter]

7x61 / 7x61mm Norma Super

Warning!#Notes:#Handloader Issue 47
Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data.
Wt. Bullet Powder Manufacturer Powder Charge Velocity (FPS)

115 Speer H.P. IMR IMR-4350 61 2,918
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.14; primer: Norma; case: Super; 1 1/4 MOA
115 Speer H.P. IMR IMR-4350 63 3,054
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.14; primer: Norma; case: Super; MOA accuracy
115 Speer H.P. Norma N-204 63 2,918
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.14; primer: Norma; case: Super; 1 1/4 MOA
115 Speer H.P. Hodgdon H-4831 65 3,053
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.14; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H; most accurate light bullet load
115 Speer H.P. Hodgdon H-4831 67 3,117
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.14; primer: CCI 250; case S&H; fine varmint load

120 Sierra Spz. IMR IMR-4320 55 3,154
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; fine varmint load
120 Hornady S-P Norma N-204 62 2,917
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: Super; lower velocity due to Super case
120 Hornady S-P Hodgdon H-4831 66 2,967
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: Super; lower velocity due to Super case

139 Hornady S-P IMR IMR-4350 60 2,954
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; accurate (MOA)
139 Hornady S-P Norma N-204 61 2,914
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; 1 1/4 MOA
139 Hornady S-P Hodgdon H-4831 64.5 2,975
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H; most accurate load tested
139 Hornady S-P Norma N-205 64.5 3,017
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; accurate flat-trajectory load
139 Hornady S-P Norma N-205 66 3,122
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; excellent flat-trajectory load

140 Speer Spz. IMR IMR-4350 61.5 3,070
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; accurate with good velocity
140 Sierra Spz. Hodgdon H-4831 63 2,870
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.25; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H; accurate low pressure load

150 Nosler Part. Hodgdon H-4831 64.5 2,960
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H; 1 1/4 MOA
150 Norma S-Ptd. IMR IMR-4831 64.5 3,162
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H; MAXIMUM - Do not exceed

160 Speer Spz. IMR IMR-4350 61 2,988
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H; fine all-around accurate load
160 Norma S-Ptd. Hodgdon H-4831 64 2,899
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: S&H
160 Norma S-Ptd. Hodgdon H-4831 64 2,762
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: Super
160 Norma S-Ptd. IMR IMR-4831 64 2,968
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: Super; note change of powder type only
160 Norma S-Ptd. Norma N-205 64 2,820
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: Super
160 Sierra Spz. IMR IMR-4831 64.5 3,042
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: Super; MAXIMUM - Do not exceed

168 Sierra M-King IMR IMR-4350 58 2,837
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.22; primer: Norma; case: S&H; MOA accuracy
168 Sierra M-King Norma N-204 59 2,821
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.22; primer: Norma; case: S&H; excellent match load
168 Sierra M-King Norma N-205 62 2,740
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.22; primer; Norma; case: Super; lower velocity due to Super case
168 Sierra M-King Hodgdon H-4831 62 2,713
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.22; primer: CCI 250; case: Super; excellent match load; shows .0005 additional case expansion when used in older S&H cases

175 Speer Magnum IMR IMR-4350 57 2,676
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H
175 Speer Magnum Norma N-204 58 2,687
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: Norma; case: S&H
175 Speer Magnum IMR IMR-4831 63 2,865
Remarks:#22 inch bbl.; overall ctg. lgt.: 3.19; primer: CCI 250; case: Super; MAXIMUM - do not exceed; hard case extraction

 

[Falconflyer]

Lots of good info there, thanks!

 

[Falconflyer]

My 7x61S&H is in a model 68DL Schultz & Larsen with a 1 - 10" twist. On it, I have a Leupold VARI-X III, 3.5x10. Early on I went through all my brass and have kept only the 7x61 Super. While I haven't, yet, done any in-depth accuracy load development and testing, I have basically settled on the Barnes TTSX in 140gr and 150gr coupled with IMR 4350 and CCI 250 primers. So far, my only use of the 7x61 in the field was on a successful Antelope draw/hunt in Alberta a few years back.

I like the 68DL rifles. Funny how they changed from 1/14 down to 1/12 twist barrels as time went on, there must have been more demand for the heavier bullets.

 

[South Pender]

I'm really late to this thread, but I'm interested in the 7x61 S&H round in the Schultz & Larsen rifles. For those of you who have handloaded for your 7x61 S&Ls, do your rifles have freebore? If so, any idea of how long it is? (Maybe .25" or so.)

 

[Ruger007]

Some old data. Might be useful.