700 Bolt handle replacement

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For those of you who have replaced a 700 bolt handle for one reason or another... with an aftermarket handle - what handles do you favour?

I have a bolt in my shop right now and am in need of a handle...

An update - I have a handle on the way...
 
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Agreed - stainless is the hard part. Not sure why ptg doesn’t offer theirs in stainless. I have only used one ptg, the rest I went factory stainless.
 
guntec,
Depending on receiver serial number pre-fix letter(s)

You will encounter long & short primary extraction cam surface configurations.

The 700 Ti handle is the LAST long cam handle configuration.

Any "G" or 3rd gen "S" prefix serial numbered receiver(2006)to the current "RR" prefix(present) will have a short cam handle that will be 5/32" out of TIME radially.

How many do you want?
I have 5gal bucket(s) filled w/ the various vintages of OEM Remington bolt handles.

Would you want the current short cam handle re-worked to a serviceable condition if that version is what you seek?

Aftermarket choice-
J.Borden-Borden Accuracy
D.Holland Extended Tac if it's the owners choice (nothing correct w/o extensive work to make correct)
PT&G if they ship the correct configuration & know the difference between a RH & LH bolh handle.
R.W.Hart Ext Tac
 
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I happen to like the current style or factory modification on Remmy Magpul 700 rifles. Nice and short. Angled for a bit of leverage. And the best part is that it’s all factory finished or refinished for you. It’s just a matter of taste.

Peace be to journey

Cheers, Barney
 
DANS40X said:
guntec,
Depending on receiver serial number pre-fix letter(s)

You will encounter long & short primary extraction cam surface configurations.

The 700 Ti handle is the LAST long cam handle configuration.

Any "G" or 3rd gen "S" prefix serial numbered receiver(2006)to the current "RR" prefix(present) will have a short cam handle that will be 5/32" out of TIME radially.

How many do you want?
I have 5gal bucket(s) filled w/ the various vintages of OEM Remington bolt handles.

Would you want the current short cam handle re-worked to a serviceable condition if that version is what you seek?

Aftermarket choice-
J.Borden-Borden Accuracy
D.Holland Extended Tac if it's the owners choice (nothing correct w/o extensive work to make correct)
PT&G if they ship the correct configuration & know the difference between a RH & LH bolh handle.
R.W.Hart Ext Tac
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Holy crap Dan, that's a lot of info...

stainless action serial number S6204370
 
guntech,
3rd gen "S" prefix serial numbered receiver &/or "G" prefix serial numbered receivers of 2006 X Mark trigger introduction date-
inspect to see if there is a .010"-.012" step just to RH side of the primary extraction cam surface or the bottom forward corner of the bolt handle cut.
If present,the step has to be blended out w/ a #4-#6 needle file or a radius cut into the underside of the bolt handle for clearance purposes.

The handle CAN NOT bind against the receiver ring.

OEM Rem long cam handles as I've coined them will get a ding/divot in the drafted surface of the extraction cam that will eventually push up a burr from the ding/divot since the drafted surface does not match the receiver's drafted angle(s)
Long cam surface handles will be approximately .080" out of TIME for primary extraction.

'06 "G" prefixed to current RR prefix serial numbered receiver short cam handles as I've coined them will be .156"-.187" out of time radially.

Those YTube producers that concern themselves w/ just positioning the bolt handle closer to the receiver to optimize handle Timing & extraction missed the other 4 aspects of Timing since the bolt/handle rotates clock wise & counter clock wise ......also.
 
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double gun said:
Dan are there any aftermarket handles available that are stainless?
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This is the only Remington bolt handle that D.Kiff stocks that is stainless & is an OEM Rem 700 Ti handle configuration.
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/177-remington-lite-stainless-steel-bolt-handle.html
If purchased from Rem,they would limit a purchase to 2each of the Ti handles.

Jim Borden manufactures stainless handles,but it needs to be configured for a Remington since Jim's handles are full width w/o the cam cut since his design works off the root of the handle.

R.W Hart used to,but stopped production of their handles 10+ years ago-which is the ONLY & BEST drop on configured handle that I've used in the last 40 years for a Remington.

Remington manufactured some stainless bolt bodies for the 700 UML,but not all of the UML of which my 2ea UML have the chrome moly bodies.

A Rem bolt body tube is manuf from parts-
The bolt head/lugs is pinned w/ a 3/16" diameter pin(1/2" aft of RH bolt lug)& induction silver brazed to the bolt body tube.
Bolt body Tube length is the biggest variable.
The bolt handle is induction silver brazed to the body tube w/ the aft side of the handle flush w/ the aft end of thew tube.

As previously mentioned-
A Long Cam handle will be .060"-.080" out of TIME radially that offers 60% primary extraction.
A Short Cam handle of current production handle will be .150"-.180" out of time radially that offers 20% at best primary extraction.

A short cam handle will not pull a 1/2" long brass primer module from a breech plug for the smokeless mzl loaders let alone a 223 or 338lapua case.
 
Dan

The handles I have positioned and attached in the past - I positioned them with as much cam engagement as I could... I would 'clean up' any damaged cam surfaces first... an 8 or 10 thou feeler gauge would cause bolt binding on lift.

This was done by lining the edge of the handle up with the bottom of the receiver and moving it forward to get minimum engagement. Usually the back of the bolt handle was forward on the back of bolt body.

I don't see any other way to do it? ?

Dennis
 
guntec,
OEM Rem 721/722,600,660,Xp-100 dog leg,4,5,6,7,A,B,C,D,E prefix serial numbered receiver bolt handles are of "Long Cam" configuration as I've coined them & will get the proverbial ding/divot in the drafted extraction cam surface from attempting to step around the receiver extraction cam surface as the handles are out of Time radially by .060"-.080".

OEM Rem F(improper stamped prefix),G,RR prefix serial numbered receiver bolt handles from 2006 to present are of "Short Cam" configuration as I've coined them & have the extraction cam surface counterclockwise past the step in the handle & will be .156"-.180" out of Time radially.
Yes, the above JUNK handle could be reconfigured to function,but scope clearance will be an issue & virtually the end result will represent a Mex Mauser bolt handle rendering it useless.

Once I have the required measurements from said bolt for my information to document,I have options to repair JUNK handles & options to fixture handles that brazing alone does not allow.
 
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