700P 338 Lapua
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What you
have said is true.
What still remains is the fact that to get the best out of a gun it takes reloads. Many people reload. How many REALLY know what they are doing? I still second guess myself at times and I would like to think I know what I am doing.
All it takes for there to be a catastrophic failure is a lack of concentration when reloading or BAD advice.
I remember being at the range in Brandon about 6 years ago. There was a fellow sighting in his Mod 70 300 Win Mag for a upcoming moose hunting trip. I asked him about his reloads. He responded in a cocky manner "Max plus 10%". Give your F+++++ head a shake. Just see if you can fit that much in the case. Needless to say I was not impressed. Be it bogus or not you have to watch what you say.
There may have not been a failure and there may never be. The possibilities still exist.
I was all for the Sako conversion until I heard about the possible lack of safety. Changed my mind pretty quick.
I have a Sako TRG and at times I think about the extractor when pulling the trigger. Yes, it sure is sweet the way it flings the empties but I will stick to picking them out with my Rem's.
I have removed the plunger from mine to eliminate undue stress on the case necks. Just the way I like shooting, slow and steady.
Calvin
have said is true.
What still remains is the fact that to get the best out of a gun it takes reloads. Many people reload. How many REALLY know what they are doing? I still second guess myself at times and I would like to think I know what I am doing.
All it takes for there to be a catastrophic failure is a lack of concentration when reloading or BAD advice.
I remember being at the range in Brandon about 6 years ago. There was a fellow sighting in his Mod 70 300 Win Mag for a upcoming moose hunting trip. I asked him about his reloads. He responded in a cocky manner "Max plus 10%". Give your F+++++ head a shake. Just see if you can fit that much in the case. Needless to say I was not impressed. Be it bogus or not you have to watch what you say.
There may have not been a failure and there may never be. The possibilities still exist.
I was all for the Sako conversion until I heard about the possible lack of safety. Changed my mind pretty quick.
I have a Sako TRG and at times I think about the extractor when pulling the trigger. Yes, it sure is sweet the way it flings the empties but I will stick to picking them out with my Rem's.
I have removed the plunger from mine to eliminate undue stress on the case necks. Just the way I like shooting, slow and steady.
Calvin
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In one word, effortless. I hope you have as much fun as I do!!
I've shot mine, 63 rds yesterday alone, but only out to 200.
The last trip out was at 400.
While I agree with the statement in a general sense let me say this. .338LM isn't exactly a novice cartridge now is it? Normally, by the time you're considering such a chambering I'd be predisposed to believe one's firearms knowledge and reloading experience is beyond the "101" level.
Sure, there's stupid people out there. There always has been and there always will be. You can't really change that except by allowing themselves to be removed from the gene pool.
A lot of these safety concerns are exagerated and serve no purpose than to support someone's argument or opinion. This is getting to the point where it's got the, "if it only saves one child" feel to it.
Funny, this Sako extractor "controversey" has played it out a number of times on this board with the same players and nay-sayers regurgitating their opinion.
Why not cool down the rhetoric here and wait for one of these 700P's to blow sky high? Then you can have the satisfaction of saying, "I told you so!".
I suspect that if the fine print is read, Remington washes its hands of any responsibility if handloads are used in any of its rifles, and would maintain that any warranty, expressed or implied, is void if handloaded ammunition is ever used in the rifle. This is pretty much standard in the industry.
I, too, tend to agree that it's NOT a novice gun, but reloading for this caliber isn't brain surgery either. If you use the same basic principles of reloading then all will be good. It just costs more.
You certainly wouldn't want one of the .338 wildcats as a first gun, or any wildcat for that matter.
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I don't about other guys and how they shoot their .338 L's but I'm using 300gr Sierra's and they don't even start calming down until 300-350m. Once I'm out to 500ish meters they start going to sleep and I'm off and running. These are home loads of course.
Maybe these Remy's are different but my advice is don't waste your ammo at anything under 200-250. Maybe 250gr's are different. (I don't know)
My zero is 300m and I stretch it out from there.
Of course, as always I may be out to lunch to others but it sure as hell works for me. I learned from a awesome shooter and believe your an A-Hole if you don't pass along it along. If I can help one person I'd be happy!!!!
Just trying to help. (P!ssy negative comments need not reply, always happy to chat about this tho', I'm sure as hell not perfect)
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Also on a side note. I am amazed at how many shooters use the paralax turret as a focus turret. I have gotten some strange looks as I adjust my paralax but if your not a d!nk about it and ask, once I've shown you how to do it I've gotten nothing but piles of thanks.
Again just MTC.
TheBigBully - Also on a side note. I am amazed at how many shooters use the paralax turret as a focus turret. I have gotten some strange looks as I adjust my paralax but if your not a d!nk about it and ask, once I've shown you how to do it I've gotten nothing but piles of thanks.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I'm always open to learn new things so enlighten me. I'm using a Nightforce scope with side paralax without specifically labelled yardage reference marks. So how is this turret not used as a focus adjustment?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I'm always open to learn new things so enlighten me. I'm using a Nightforce scope with side paralax without specifically labelled yardage reference marks. So how is this turret not used as a focus adjustment?
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You're going to owe me a beer for this. You are going to be grinning from ear to ear once you figure this out.
Prop your rifle so it is steady. Bi pod and bag, rest whatever. Turn the parallax turret all the way to it's LOWEST setting. Fix a point of reference on your target with your reticle. (ie cross hair on the bull of the target) Now WITHOUT!!!! moving the rifle slowly bob your head up or down, left to right, whatever works for you, looking thru the scope, and watch the cross hair move on your target. Slowly move the turret increasing it as it goes until the cross hair and your point of reference stops moving. Everything should be still. If you overshoot and things start moving again you have overshot and have to start over from the lowest setting. Should take you about 15 min to master. You now have your parallax adjusted and your groups should noticeably get tighter.
Once you master this you can also shoot thru mirage by screwing with the parallax. The image may not be focused by your parallax will be on.
You do this every time you change your distance.
You also do this if you have a objective parallax, like my US Optics.
I guarantee this works and others watching you will think you are right out to lunch. Once they try it they will be shocked at the results. I have taught quite a few guys this.
I thought everyone knew this but I'm always being asked what I'm doing.
I have now given away the slightest edge I ever had over other shooters. Sigh, now I have to work harder to stay in the game.
Let me know how this works for you. For everyone else, what do you have to lose, give it a try and you will be surprised.
Cheers,
P
Prop your rifle so it is steady. Bi pod and bag, rest whatever. Turn the parallax turret all the way to it's LOWEST setting. Fix a point of reference on your target with your reticle. (ie cross hair on the bull of the target) Now WITHOUT!!!! moving the rifle slowly bob your head up or down, left to right, whatever works for you, looking thru the scope, and watch the cross hair move on your target. Slowly move the turret increasing it as it goes until the cross hair and your point of reference stops moving. Everything should be still. If you overshoot and things start moving again you have overshot and have to start over from the lowest setting. Should take you about 15 min to master. You now have your parallax adjusted and your groups should noticeably get tighter.
Once you master this you can also shoot thru mirage by screwing with the parallax. The image may not be focused by your parallax will be on.
You do this every time you change your distance.
You also do this if you have a objective parallax, like my US Optics.
I guarantee this works and others watching you will think you are right out to lunch. Once they try it they will be shocked at the results. I have taught quite a few guys this.
I thought everyone knew this but I'm always being asked what I'm doing.
I have now given away the slightest edge I ever had over other shooters. Sigh, now I have to work harder to stay in the game.
Let me know how this works for you. For everyone else, what do you have to lose, give it a try and you will be surprised.
Cheers,
P
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- In the clock tower!!
You're going to owe me a beer for this. You are going to be grinning from ear to ear once you figure this out.
Prop your rifle so it is steady. Bi pod and bag, rest whatever. Turn the parallax turret all the way to it's LOWEST setting. Fix a point of reference on your target with your reticle. (ie cross hair on the bull of the target) Now WITHOUT!!!! moving the rifle slowly bob your head up or down, left to right, whatever works for you, looking thru the scope, and watch the cross hair move on your target. Slowly move the turret increasing it as it goes until the cross hair and your point of reference stops moving. Everything should be still. If you overshoot and things start moving again you have overshot and have to start over from the lowest setting. Should take you about 15 min to master. You now have your parallax adjusted and your groups should noticeably get tighter.
Once you master this you can also shoot thru mirage by screwing with the parallax. The image may not be focused by your parallax will be on.
You do this every time you change your distance.
You also do this if you have a objective parallax, like my US Optics.
I guarantee this works and others watching you will think you are right out to lunch. Once they try it they will be shocked at the results. I have taught quite a few guys this.
I thought everyone knew this but I'm always being asked what I'm doing.
I have now given away the slightest edge I ever had over other shooters. Sigh, now I have to work harder to stay in the game.
Let me know how this works for you. For everyone else, what do you have to lose, give it a try and you will be surprised.
Cheers,
P
This is the same technique that was taught to me by a VERY experienced marksman. Always does the trick for me
In addition to this, I was taught to focus (not paralax) the scope against a white target. Do this furst as part of your set up.
As for the paralax technique, practice this till you get quick.
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This is the same technique that was taught to me by a VERY experienced marksman. Always does the trick for me
In addition to this, I was taught to focus (not paralax) the scope against a white target. Do this furst as part of your set up.
As for the paralax technique, practice this till you get quick.
Hmm, I'll have to try it against something white. I just use whatever I'm about to drill a round through. I too was taught this by a VERY checked out shooter. When that guy talks I STFU and pay attention.
Anyone that has a .338 Remington in the Edmonton area and is heading out to CHAS let me know, I'm very curious to see what this rifle does. You can bounce all the questions you want off me or we can just shoot the sh!t about this sweet caliber. I'll bring the dip and Timmy's.
Your two sniper buddies I assume
Are they on CGN yet?? We could use their expertise on the Precision forum..
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Your two sniper buddies I assume
They are a big help as well but I'm talking about my buddy from Jefferson GA. USA.
I don't know if the boys are on this or not. I'm pretty sure they won't ever get involved in shooting the sh!t on here. Understandably they are both real quiet guys. Professionals through and through. They always tease me and say I'll never be good enough with my rifle and should give it to them as they are better shots with it than I am.
It is always a pleasure to watch them work their magic.
