700P 338 Lapua
- Thread starter DRAGONSLAYER
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- calgary alberta
We have 50 on order and got 2, hopefully the rest will be along at some point in the near future.
- Location
- calgary alberta
Not factory, but we build lefties in custom rifles all the time.
After bedding the rifle, tuning the trigger and assembling all the bits and pieces, I finally got out to the range to break in the barrel. I wish I had more time 'cause I had about 40 more rounds of 2 different recipes to test. Ran out of time before it got crowded, but the initial results are very, very promising.
The center 10 shot group was fired at 100 m while breaking in the barrel, which consisted of a patch of gun juice between each 250 SMK shot for a 10 shot aggregate; the flier was the first clean bore shot. I then scrubbed the bore clean (which was easy, no copper) and fired a rapid fire fouling group in the lower left. The last group on the top left is a 3-shot aggregate (2 pretty much in the same hole) shooting 250 Scenar's. I left after that group 'cause it was starting to get too busy at the range.
Overall, initial impressions are that I am very impressed, and I think I finally have my LR elk rifle. The stock is more comfy that I thought, and the brake works suprisingly well, way better than I thought it would, but loud. More to follow when I can squeeze in a quiet sesson during the week and get serious....
The center 10 shot group was fired at 100 m while breaking in the barrel, which consisted of a patch of gun juice between each 250 SMK shot for a 10 shot aggregate; the flier was the first clean bore shot. I then scrubbed the bore clean (which was easy, no copper) and fired a rapid fire fouling group in the lower left. The last group on the top left is a 3-shot aggregate (2 pretty much in the same hole) shooting 250 Scenar's. I left after that group 'cause it was starting to get too busy at the range.
Overall, initial impressions are that I am very impressed, and I think I finally have my LR elk rifle. The stock is more comfy that I thought, and the brake works suprisingly well, way better than I thought it would, but loud. More to follow when I can squeeze in a quiet sesson during the week and get serious....
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I had rebarreled one last week. It was an interesting study of what comes out to the custom shop now. I really didn't like the metal finish. I was disapointed withe the recoil lug replaced it with a Holland. The bolt was nice and straight. Action needed a little trueing. The the action lugs had the that black finishing on them? The Chamber is really far into the barrel. The three rings of steel are not really much need as the third ring is cut so thin to acommodate the extractor (so the extractor to slide over the brass and go into the groove on loading) to be any stuctural value. I always felt that this was a Rem gimick anyway.
I like the stock I think it was a HS precision. The bottom metal was. SO I would tally up
1500.00 for factory rifle
500.00 barrel
200.00 on Break
500.00 on labour.
40.00 recoil lug.
2740.00 less selling OEM barrel mabe 100.00
2600-2700 for a pretty good shooter. (scope will cost you on any rifle not included)
And yet my factory rifle (plus bedding and trigger tune) looks to be an easy 1/2 MOA shooter.
Yea, I don't doubt it at all. This is just one rifle that I have dealt with some will probably be better and some maybe worse. We want a 1/4 MOA rifle. That is why we did all the work on it. Just elimiating the variables.
And yet my factory rifle (plus bedding and trigger tune) looks to be an easy 1/2 MOA shooter
For a stock .338LM, I think 1/2MOA is very acceptable indeed. i was gonna ask you if the barrel was stock but you answered it on the above thread. Thx & good job.
I know Rick installs adjustable McMillan cheekpieces, do you think you would require one?
Probably not.
YeT, there is nothing wrong with rem700 PSS stock, just do the trigger and forget the bedding, the Aluminum bedding in the block will take care it as long as you tork down the two screw evently...
and if you need a cheek piece, get one of those Eagle industries butt pouch with cheek piece, it one of the best item for Long range shooting...
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Here's my take on the whole custom, semi-custom, factory thing.
- A rifle that is built for you, is adjustable to fit your body type and is put together with quality parts and craftsmanship in the hands of a skilled shooter will be easier to get to shoot consistantly tight groups. Additionally those groups will be tighter on average than a plain jane factory rifle.
In the last year I have a little over 2000rds through my AIAW and about 800 through my bedded factory LTR. Some days I can get my LTR to shoot as tight of groups, but I have to concentrate much more at it. Over a long term comparision my AI shoots consistantly tighter groups and is easier for me to shoot because I have it adjusted to fit me and all I have to do is get on the rifle and everything is "there".
Having shot a few high end custom jobs I have found the same to be true. Once the stock has been fitted and adjusted it is pretty easy to get the groups to tighten up.
- The most common disappointment you see in high jobs is when guys aren't up to the abilities of the rifle and blame less than stellar accuracy on the rifle as opposed to what they are doing wrong.
- It's a case of diminishing returns, the higher the price point and its the little things that you are starting to pay for and it will be more and more difficult to tell the difference on paper. The biggest variable and deciding factor in the rifles ability to shoot accurately will be the quality of the operator on the trigger. On the best of days I am a 1/2 MOA shooter. Paying to build a 1/4 MOA rifle might be a little pointless for me.
- Bottom line is it comes down to what the consumer wants and is willing to pay for.
- A rifle that is built for you, is adjustable to fit your body type and is put together with quality parts and craftsmanship in the hands of a skilled shooter will be easier to get to shoot consistantly tight groups. Additionally those groups will be tighter on average than a plain jane factory rifle.
In the last year I have a little over 2000rds through my AIAW and about 800 through my bedded factory LTR. Some days I can get my LTR to shoot as tight of groups, but I have to concentrate much more at it. Over a long term comparision my AI shoots consistantly tighter groups and is easier for me to shoot because I have it adjusted to fit me and all I have to do is get on the rifle and everything is "there".
Having shot a few high end custom jobs I have found the same to be true. Once the stock has been fitted and adjusted it is pretty easy to get the groups to tighten up.
- The most common disappointment you see in high jobs is when guys aren't up to the abilities of the rifle and blame less than stellar accuracy on the rifle as opposed to what they are doing wrong.
- It's a case of diminishing returns, the higher the price point and its the little things that you are starting to pay for and it will be more and more difficult to tell the difference on paper. The biggest variable and deciding factor in the rifles ability to shoot accurately will be the quality of the operator on the trigger. On the best of days I am a 1/2 MOA shooter. Paying to build a 1/4 MOA rifle might be a little pointless for me.
- Bottom line is it comes down to what the consumer wants and is willing to pay for.
- Location
- Whitehorse, Yukon
Found one at Williams arms in Port Perry this AM.
- Location
- calgary alberta
We have a few that are supposed to be here next week, got the registrations for them today.
Yup, but you still need bottom metal/mag system, a trigger, plus a bit of fit up labour.
Then if you're OCD like me
you'll want a new reamer, the chamber cut benchrest style, a stock with all the bells and toys, and who knows how many other little trinkets!For those interested in the TRG I don't believe it has enough twist for 300 grain bullets.....Or so I've heard.
Actually the SAKO TRG42 did ok with the 300 grain Sierra BTHP, I was at Calgary last week, had a change to try out buddy TRG42, it did a very good group(alittle bigger than 2inchs) at 500meter, we never had a change to shoot farther than that, but I am very impress with the rifles, the power for the load was Hodgdon US 869, so I don't believe what people say about 300grain is only good in 1in10, because his rifles I believe was 1in12...
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