70gr Berger VS 69gr Sierra VS 69gr Nosler

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In .223, which of these are performing the best? I'm loading for a Rem 700 SPS tac. I've done pretty much everything I can with the Berger VLD and am still not getting great results. I'm going to try some 69gr Noslers next.

Also, what are these bullets capable of at longer distances? What MOA should they hold at say 500-600 yds.?

Please share your loads and results.
 
For my savage precision carbine with a 1:9 twist 20" barrel, I use the match kings. My go to load is 23.8gr of H335 loaded to 2.240" traveling about 2880 fps. (I have never seen any repeatable increase in performance with specific primers or brass.) This load is almost always capable of <0.8 moa, and with the average running around 0.5 to 0.6 moa. I went with the 69gr SMKs because they're cheaper than the Bergers for the same performance out of my rifle. I can't say I have seen the Nosler 69gr bullets where I usually shop so I can't comment on that really.

One weird thing with my rifle is that velocities are considerably lower than listed and almost all my different load testing tends to open up when I get to the max listed loads. (55gr bullets don't like anything over 3100 fps).
 
I found Hornady 68 grain HPBT Match bullets to be equal in accuracy to 69 grain SMKs and they have a slightly higher published BC, so I used them. Never had a problem and shot them out to 500m often with a 14.5" AR.
 
I had better luck with the 68gr Hornadys than the 69gr SMK. I used Varget, but can't remember the load off hand. 1-9 twist Savage.
 
I've had great succes with the 69gr smk's. I have heard lots of people say the 77gr SMK's shoot great in a 1in9", I have been meaning to give them a try.
 
I have used SMK 69g and Scenar 69g with good result, but the Berger 70g VLD fly like no other, the drop is about a 10" less @ 850y than the two others for the same speed ( tested in the field )
the gun is a bone stock CZ527KV 24" 1/9 twist barrel and I crony the 69g VLD @ 3110 fps (mean)

the VLD bullet are not a user friendly bullet a little more sensitive to the distance to the lands, due to their shape the AOL of the bullet can vary by .010" from a bullet to an other. the use of a bullet comparator is a must. I also recomand a micrometer bullet seater
they are a little more work but you can see the result at long range.
 
Rifle: Rem700SPS_Tac 20" (stock)
Load: 69grSMK, H335 22.5gr, 2.34OAL
Result: <.5MOA (@100M)
I've had very little luck with the 75grAMAX, best is 1.1MOA(100M) 22grH335, 2.44OAL (longer thinner profile)... and can't get them to repeatably stabilize. (Dang) Like they're not key-holing but looking for 1 ragged hole. (Or 'clubs') Played with grain and length.

I too have heard the myth of the 77gr and will try my luck at that. (Will try to post results if they're worthy.)
 
Couldnt get the sierra's to shoot at all for me. I tried over 100 test loads and still nothing. The berger 77gr worked good for me but for something lighter the hornady 68gr bthp works real nice.
 
I cannot speak to the Bergers, but I have had very, very good success with the Hornady's as far as accuracy goes. I could not get the Nosler's to group as well as the Hornady's or the Sierra's, but I used the Nosler's for hunting coyotes with great success. I shot them into home-made ballistic medium and they mushroomed very well. Can't say the same for the Sierras. Another 69 grainer that I have had very good results with was the PRVI bullet.
 
My rifle likes both but it likes the burger 70gr the best with 24gr's of varget. Rifle is savage fvss 1 in 9 twist 26" barrel
 
Thx for the info guys! I think I've tweaked my load with 70gr Bergers to where I can work with it. Pzkw108, I have definitely noticed groups with these at 100 are terrible, thus all my development is done at 200. I've started doing this with other, lighter bullets too. Can't wait to take these bullets out further and tweak some more :)
 
Wow zombie post! The 70gr. Bergers are working very well for me, better than Nosler CCs. The Bergers definitely aren't stable at 100, very accurate out to 400 yds so far.
 
The Bergers do signifficantly better in the wind. They have the same BC as the 77 SMK, but you can drive them as fast as the 69 SMK. They shoot well in my AR.
 
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