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My buddy just bought one, no he didn't ask my advice, no he doesn't know much about firearms, all he knew is his buddy reloads 7mm and that the 710 was on sale.

We went to the range to sight it in yesterday, and he is already talking about his next gun when he started making comparisions to my rifles.

Question, are these rifles not free floating? It sure looks like it is not, or is it just poor fit and finish?
 
Remington 710

the way a gunsmith explained it to me was that these actions are all mass produced ,they come off an assembly line , then they are inspected , the ones that don't come out too well are made into the lower grade models , the 710's were not good enough to be 700's ,but because of the cost of manufactering they are not discarded. they are fitted with less than perfect stocks , barrel's that are also inspected and don't make the grade as flawless, and the metal work finishing is done quickly. there is no reason that you may not find one that is not accurate ,but it may not measure up in fit and finish , quality of wood of a 700 from the custom shop. also the time taken to finish these is reflected in the price . your friend may find that his 710 is fine for his use , but like you said ,he has compared his rifle to some of yours , and has noticed a difference. good luck Joe
 
joe your "gunsmith" is full of crap
the 710 is in no way realted to the 700
the 710 is/was a bargain rifle made to hit a price point
people crap on it all the time but i don't recall anybody owning one that didn't do what it was supposed to do
kind of like starting with a cavalier and moving to a corvette once you hav e the means
 
joe.l said:
the way a gunsmith explained it to me was that these actions are all mass produced ,they come off an assembly line , then they are inspected , the ones that don't come out too well are made into the lower grade models , the 710's were not good enough to be 700's ,but because of the cost of manufactering they are not discarded. they are fitted with less than perfect stocks , barrel's that are also inspected and don't make the grade as flawless, and the metal work finishing is done quickly. there is no reason that you may not find one that is not accurate ,but it may not measure up in fit and finish , quality of wood of a 700 from the custom shop. also the time taken to finish these is reflected in the price . your friend may find that his 710 is fine for his use , but like you said ,he has compared his rifle to some of yours , and has noticed a difference. good luck Joe
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Not even close. The 710 is not even the same design as a 700. It is a 3 lug bolt with a nylon liner in the receiver. The barrel does not thread into the action on a 710, they are integral. The plastic stock on the 710 os so bad, you can warp it with a firm cheek weld. My son had one and it was capable of launching bullets safely, but they're basically junk.
 
X2 what Donny said. Totally different from 700's. Is your friend an actual gunsmith or a self-styled "expert?"
The rifle is ugly as sin. But I've talked to several owners who loved the performance, especially at that price.
I read a couple things on the internet about how 710's showed up with bolts rusted shut, etc, etc, but really not too much. The biggest real complaint against them seems to be the fact that they are hideously cheap-looking. Quite a valid point, IMHO, and it affects resale value accordingly.
 
gonecountry said:
How long before this thread gets out of hand?

Not many people like them. Buy I can't say because I havent ever laid eyes on one myself.
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You may be on to something there HA :popCorn:


I am not a fan of them either, but I was surprised that they were not free floating and he was having a hard time getting it to group too.
 
303carbine said:
I have heard reports that the barrel isn't threaded but rather press fitted into the receiver, now there is quality........................:bsFlag:
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this is fact.

Its not so much (to me) that they are a huge peice of ####, it's that in light of other simmar priced firearms, they represent very very poor value for your dollar.

they are reliable and accurate enough to hunt big game in canada. but there is a lot more to be desired in a firearm then simply something that goes bang.
 
the funny theing about " free floating barrels" is that most hunting rifles frome every manufacturer are not free floated but have the stock touch the barrel in some way or another
and most hunting rifles that are "free floated" so that a dollar bill goes down the barrel channel have such flexy barrels and wood that as soon as a shot is fired the barrel rings against the stock
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
the funny theing about " free floating barrels" is that most hunting rifles frome every manufacturer are not free floated but have the stock touch the barrel in some way or another
and most hunting rifles that are "free floated" so that a dollar bill goes down the barrel channel have such flexy barrels and wood that as soon as a shot is fired the barrel rings against the stock
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Will free floating a barrel give you "minute of Deer" at 100 yds.?
 
sometimes?
most times you have to bed the action as well
sometimes if you hollow out the barrel channel the groups will open up
because the barrel needs a bit of pressure to shoot well (on sporter weight barrels any ways)
 
hell on the hugh end to is some areas remingtons biggest advantage is the after market availability of stocks and barrels and other accesories and savage is starting to get some attention from what i have seen

think about this they made a special action for they're bugget rifles ever wonder why? savage has 1 action for pretty much every gun when you buy one you know that the action isn't some new fangled specialy made product with no gun smiths in the design process but the same reliable action they mount onthere top of the line models
 
I just don't understand why people on a budget go and spend $450 buying a Remington 710 with a scope on it.
You can buy a drilled and tapped rifle based on a milsurp action with a recoil pad and a nice checkered stock for about $325. Spend $125 on a scope and you've got yourself a deer rifle.
And I don't think you'd find anyone in their right mind who would argue a 710 is better than a military action.
 
Lots of people don't want to buy used rifles. Most of the people who buy 710's are hunters, period. Not collectors, handloaders, enthusiasts, target shooters....hunters. They just want a rifle that's new and isn't someone else's problem. How many times have you seen posts on this board along the lines of "It wouldn't shoot right so I sold it." Do you think all these guys told prospective buyers the gun was lousy?
Generally speaking, budget guns are created for non-tinkering, non-improving, non-handloading hunters. Most do the job well. Unfortunately, Remington created the 710. What a sad day for us all. Although I do recall Layne Simpson's review where he said that it was a homely but serviceable firearm, but important in its own way because it represented a shift toward producing more affordable firearms for the group I just mentioned. Unfortunately, Remington led the parade with an Edsel. Too bad they didn't just use their 700 action in a hardwood stock like they did in the early 80's.
 
My cousin bought two of these. 30-06 and 300 Win Mag. I've shot them at the range, and did decently with them in terms of grouping, etc. I just did not like the feel of them (specifically, for me, the bolt seemed to "stick" when moving it forward -- maybe it's just me), and was glad for the opportunity to shoot them. Now I know they're not for me.

He's a bit impulsive from time to time, so maybe it was the price and the moment that reeled him in -- I know he now wouldn't mind if I were to buy one off of him, but I want something in the Mauser action if buying new, I think. In any event, military surplus rifles do the trick just fine and the contest between a used 710 and a used surplus rifle in decent condition is not worth talking about for me.
 
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