7600 in 35W

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http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/special_runs/model_7600_-_.35_calbers.asp

Does anyone own one of these? How do they shoot with 250gr ammo? Are these still readily available?

I have been toying with getting .35 cal gun and originally wanted a lever as I have always hunted with levers. So originally I was looking at BLR .358 as my criteria was a quick shooting gun that could drive 250gr bullets with modest recoil. I want a good shooting cartridge you could feel comfortable with hunting large bear over bait and at the same time poking whitetails at 100 yards.

Anyway maybe a 7600 in 35W (reloading 250gr rounds with slightly lower velocity to reduce recoil) is the ticket? Somehow I feel I am going to get sucked into reloading to meet these criteria. Perhaps a 444Marlin is the answer after all ... I read once that is a cartridge where reloading is not required unlike the .358.

Thoughts anyone ...
 
I tried a few shots with a 7600 in .35 Whelen (I was pretty sure you didn't actually mean .35 Winchester, LOL) and found the recoil pretty stiff. However, the recoil level is about the same for all three of these cartridges.
Really, any of these rounds would do what you want quite well, I'd think. You may also want to check out the new .338 Marlin Express.
 
I've got one from the first go around, IIRC 1988 production. It shot any 200 grain handload that I could close the slide on well, 200 grain factory loads a reluctant Ok and 250 factory roundnose very well. At the time that's all there was. 250 grain spire points weren't exactly common at that time, but Hornady had one. It took a lot more effort than I would have guessed to get the 250 Hornady Spire point shooting but once I tried Varget everything fell into place with groups that the most diehard internet gunner couldn't fault. I've got a hunch that if I were building a Whelen it would be getting a 1-14" barrel.
I've still got the gun, but somehow everytime it's time to go hunting I end up taking something else. For your described use it would be great. Invest in a good pad, that plastic butt-plate monstrousity will get your attention.
 
Me again ........ :D


aomancini said:
Does anyone own one of these? How do they shoot with 250gr ammo? Are these still readily available?
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I've owned four of them. Still own one. All have been good shooters with 250gr Speers [handloads]. There are a few around, but not many come up for sale and can be hard to find.

aomancini said:
Anyway maybe a 7600 in 35W (reloading 250gr rounds with slightly lower velocity to reduce recoil) is the ticket?
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The full house loaded 250s can offer some recoil, but not something you would be able to work up to. The 200s are quite a bit less, not unlike a 30/06, and would be a good place to start. For deer hunting, the 200s are a good bullet anyways.

aomancini said:
Somehow I feel I am going to get sucked into reloading to meet these criteria.
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For reduced loads, handloading is the way to go. The Whelen is easy to load for. If you need dies, let me know as I have and extra set. The 7600 works just fine with reg FLR dies. Sm base dies are not required.

aomancini said:
... I read once that is a cartridge where reloading is not required unlike the .358.
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If you looking to avoid handloading, a 30/06 is a great cartridge for deer sized game and larger with good bullets. There is lots, and I MEAN LOTS of factory load selections.


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My wife got me one for Christmas several years back. I liked it so much I shot a B&C white-tail buck with it. And a mule deer buck and a white-tail doe. All with Factory Rem. 250 gr. bullets. I don't think the bullets were opening up enough on these deer bodies. All these deer took more than one shot. Next time I get drawn for moose I'll use the .35 and see how it does on the big deer.
 
... here we go a reloading

Kilo Charlie said:
You may also want to check out the new .338 Marlin Express.
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Dude that was an awesome suggestion but I gotta wonder why H is only offering 200gr ammo ... doh! Wouldn't a .33 cal be just as naturally a 225 or 250 gr bullet ... plus I would like to see some ballistics for those. Looks like this gun is not even available until Jan 2009
 
Win94 said:
I had one i thought was pretty cool. However everytime you touched one off the action would open. It got kinda iritating.
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When I shot the last one I had off the bags with 250gr loads, it would open the action and kick the empty case out about 4ft w/o me operating the pump. :eek:

I asked around and found it to be normal with the 7600s. I didn't sweat it after that and never had a problem.
 
That action opening thing must be a 7600 quirk ,cuzz the one I load shells for duzz that too, always has rite from brand new,has maybe only 4 or 5 boxes of ammo thru it !!!

Bearcat
 
Of all the 760/7600s I have owned only the Whelen,and a 30-06 shooting 220gr would open the action on discharge.I only noticed this off the bench though.
 
Win94 said:
I had one i thought was pretty cool. However everytime you touched one off the action would open. It got kinda iritating.
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Thats what it's supposed to do. A heavy recoiling, slick working pump will open during recoil, leaving you nothing to do but close it on the way down. Pump shotgunners have been using this to good advantage for years. Winchester used to even work it into their ads.
 
Thats what it's supposed to do. A heavy recoiling, slick working pump will open during recoil, leaving you nothing to do but close it on the way down. Pump shotgunners have been using this to good advantage for years. Winchester used to even work it into their ads.
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Well, good thing i didn't ask Supercub for my money back!!!:D Ha ha i keed!!! I miss that rig actually.:(
 
Both of my 7600/35whelens opened on firing and kicked out the brass like a semi. It was really making me mad digging into deep snow for my brass. But I also was assured by the retailer/gunsmith (Epps) this was not unsafe but normal. It kinda creeped me out though at first and I still am getting used to that behaviour.

Tip - try a slight bit of backward pressure on the fore end when touching off full house 35whelen loads in the 7600 from the bench - that's pull back a bit. I've found that the breech will remain closed on mine if I do this. Then I can contain the brass for immediate inspection and reuse. Give it a try.
 
Dogleg said:
Thats what it's supposed to do. A heavy recoiling, slick working pump will open during recoil, leaving you nothing to do but close it on the way down. Pump shotgunners have been using this to good advantage for years. Winchester used to even work it into their ads.
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Problem is if it doesn't "kick back" all the way and bring up a fresh shell, then you can rack the action ahead and think you are loaded and redy to go when you are not.

I've had that happen with a shotgun and the next ducks that came in got a free ride.

Robin in Rocky
 
Duffy said:
Problem is if it doesn't "kick back" all the way and bring up a fresh shell, then you can rack the action ahead and think you are loaded and redy to go when you are not.

I've had that happen with a shotgun and the next ducks that came in got a free ride.

Robin in Rocky
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Well, you do need to work with it a bit.:D
 
I shoot the 350 Rem Mag, which is the 35 Whelen's shorter but identical brother. I use the 350 just for elk and moose usually, with 250 Speers or 250 Hornady RN. After a few animals and some research with other fellows, my preference is the 250 Hornady RN. I shot one deer during an elk hunting day with a 250 gr Hornady RN and despite the fact it was a perfect rib shot behind both shoulders, it left a lot of blood shot meat. If I was to use the 350 on deer again I'd load a 200 gr bullet at about 25 to 2600 FPS. I've heard that the Remington 200 PSP is a good deer bullet. If you use a 200 gr RN, make sure it is not designed for 35 Remington speeds or it will blow up at 35 Whelen speeds. For black bears I'd use the 250 Hornady in the Whelen.

The 7600 is a great gun, and the 35 Whelen is a great cartridge.
 
WiserFool said:
The 7600 is a great gun, and the 35 Whelen is a great cartridge.
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No doubt I have heard/read lots of great things ... I would love to hear from someone who hunts (likes) BLR and Marlin levers and could compare/contrast the feel/point of the gun. Which is more comfortable in close quarters? Does the 7600 feel like a Rem pump shotgun ... I have an 870 so that would be usefull info.

Also any thoughts on the 16" rate of twist (this is what appears in the limited offer 35 Whelen 7600 on the Rem site)

Cheers
AMan
 
I think the reason it kicks open the action is because the recoil pushes the rifle back and the forearm simply keeps traveling backward as the rifle recovers (trigger depressed) .
Freaked me out a bit when i first had it happen to me but after thinking the how and the why this was the conclusion that i came up with. (few other reasons but this is the biggest one)

I have one in 30-06 but i wish i had a 35 wheelan carbine. I wonder if i could purchase a new 35w 18.5 barrel from remington?
 
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