77 gr .223 big enough for deer in Manitoba?

While I can't comment on the hunting laws in MB, I think a match bullet, especially from a 223, would be a bad choice for deer. While I'm sure it will kill deer in most cases, I think if you're using a small rifle, you should use a bullet designed for deer hunting.
 
You can buy a factory round from Winchester. It's a 64 grain PowerPoint & rated for deer.

I'm with Scott_N on the match bullets, some guys swear they work, others swear they'll never use them again after loosing an animal...

Cheers
Jay
 
Thanks guys. just wanted some input. i got one in November with the 77 gr. one in the spine. bang flop, but my cousin was making fun of me mercilessly for using that rifle saying it was too small and what not. The regs here say anything less than 23 cal isnt RECOMENDED but not that it isnt allowed. dont know much about ammo so i thought i would go heavier than the 55 gr i plink with and the 77 match were the heaviest i could find at the local shop.
How do these lighter rounds work more effectivly?
 
jasonn said:
Thanks guys. just wanted some input. i got one in November with the 77 gr. one in the spine. bang flop, but my cousin was making fun of me mercilessly for using that rifle saying it was too small and what not. The regs here say anything less than 23 cal isnt RECOMENDED but not that it isnt allowed. dont know much about ammo so i thought i would go heavier than the 55 gr i plink with and the 77 match were the heaviest i could find at the local shop.
How do these lighter rounds work more effectivly?
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Match bullets are usually designed for accuracy and have a thin jacket, hunting rounds have a thicker jacket so the bullet will hold together longer to penetrate into the vitals. A heavier bullet that fragments on impact might not punch through into the vitals as well as a lighter hunting bullet.

But since yours worked thats what counts in the end.

:dancingbanana:
 
Don't know what type of rifle your shooting but I found the heavy end of the spectrum 224 bullets not to be all that accurate. My guess is that the 12:1 twist of my Sako barrel was not fast enough to stabilaze the long slugs. I was loading 70 grain speer slugs. Dropped down to Nosler 60 grain solid base and things were back to sub MOA. Just my trials and trivulations from a few decades ago.

Likely catch some flak for this comment but IMO the 22 calibre centrefires are a poor choice for a deer round in the hands of the average hunter.
 
jasonn said:
Thanks guys. just wanted some input. i got one in November with the 77 gr. one in the spine. bang flop, but my cousin was making fun of me mercilessly for using that rifle saying it was too small and what not. The regs here say anything less than 23 cal isnt RECOMENDED but not that it isnt allowed. dont know much about ammo so i thought i would go heavier than the 55 gr i plink with and the 77 match were the heaviest i could find at the local shop.
How do these lighter rounds work more effectivly?
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Thats good and all, but spine shot is usually more luck then anything else. That deer could have run a REALLY long way if you hadnt hit the spine. If you're going to use a .223, use a bullet designed for deer hunting.
 
I've seen 50gr Rem HPs +55gr out of a .222 and .223 55grHornady SP [old style with cannalure]all one shot kills chest shot under 100 yards.Also 3 bear with the .222 one shot each....It'll work if you do..................Harold
 
I would recommend the Barnes TSX bullets for the .223 -- I used a Hornady VMax 60 grain bullet to kill 3 deer (inc 1 big buck) but they were pretty close shots (<60m) they dropped right there and 1 needed a follow up shot.
 
I loaded some 55gr Trophy Bonded Bear Claws last night for my XCR in 223 hopefully will get to the range tomorrow to give them a try...
 
I have far more firearms than just a 30-06... the two rifles that are always with me now are my 21" barreled Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM and my XCR-L in 223.

I just swapped the VX3 2.5-8X36mm B&C reticle scope that was on the XCR to my VX111 4.5-14X40mm side focus 30mm tube Varmint reticle last night going to the club in an hour or so to sight it in and finally check how accurate this rifle and my loads are.
 
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