777 209 Primer - Range Report

[iluvmy300]

Anyone try the new Triple7 209 Muzzloading primer yet? I read various reports that a standard 209 primer has too much oomph and actually lifts the sabot off the powder prior to ignition of the powder, which affects your accuracy. This new primer is supposed to pack less of a punch and therefor improve your accuracy.

 

[scott_r]

Anyone try the new Triple7 209 Muzzloading primer yet? I read various reports that a standard 209 primer has too much oomph and actually lifts the sabot off the powder prior to ignition of the powder, which affects your accuracy. This new primer is supposed to pack less of a punch and therefor improve your accuracy.

Ive had great success using cheddite and Win 209's with 777.

One thing to note is that Hodgon wants you to believe that everyone elses product is inferior, doesn't work so they can take you're money.

Lots of guys have some amazing shooting muzzleloaders and shoot primers other then 777.

Id be more concerned about a proper sabot, which is the weak link of muzzleloaders vs a primer.

Cheers!!

 

[iluvmy300]

Ive had great success using cheddite and Win 209's with 777.

One thing to note is that Hodgon wants you to believe that everyone elses product is inferior, doesn't work so they can take you're money.

Lots of guys have some amazing shooting muzzleloaders and shoot primers other then 777.

Id be more concerned about a proper sabot, which is the weak link of muzzleloaders vs a primer.

Cheers!!

What do you consider a proper sabot?

 

[iluvmy300]

Well I tried them out tonight. I have a Traditions Stainless Lightning bolt action. I am shooting two 50gr Pyrodex pellets and a 330g Extreme Elite bullet from Precision Rifle. With the Winchester 777 primers my groups were consistently smaller than my groups with my regular 209 primers. The groups went from averaging 1.5"-2" at 100yds to 1" at 100yds, with one group being .75".

 

[scott_r]

What do you consider a proper sabot?

Nothing beat the sabots by MMP they seem to be the premium sabots on the market. They're built strong enough to stand the pressures of a smokless ML. You know you have a poor sabot when the base is blown or petals break ( both are devastating to accuracy). Ive tried knight, Harvestor and a few other brands and Ive found the MMP black short sabots to really hold up in my smokeless ML.

Great shooting if you can consistantly get .75 MOA with a muzzleloader. You've got a real keeper there, congrats

Cheers!!

 

[thedanielm]

aren't most sabots MMP anyway?

"The vast majority of muzzleloading enthusiasts today, in the area of 90%, are using MMP sabots, whether they actually know it or not. Hornady, Winchester-Olin, Barnes Bullets, Thompson-Center Arms, Knight Rifles, Buffalo Bullets, and Precision Rifle bullets have all used MMP sabots extensively in times past, and continue to do so."

chuckhawks.com/mmp_sabots.htm 3rd paragraph

 

[scott_r]

aren't most sabots MMP anyway?

"The vast majority of muzzleloading enthusiasts today, in the area of 90%, are using MMP sabots, whether they actually know it or not. Hornady, Winchester-Olin, Barnes Bullets, Thompson-Center Arms, Knight Rifles, Buffalo Bullets, and Precision Rifle bullets have all used MMP sabots extensively in times past, and continue to do so."

chuckhawks.com/mmp_sabots.htm 3rd paragraph

I have heard the same I guess I should have been more specific in using the MMP high pressure sabots. MMP makes a tonne of sabots.
Notice how old chuckhawk states "in times past" not all the time. You may have one box of 20 SST's with and the next without with could really throw your accuracy.

Cheers!!