7mm-08 and Barnes TSX/TTSX projectiles

[sure as shootin]

A few years ago my very good friend decided to start hunting. Lots of people told him he needed a 300WM with 180gr bullets to hunt in BC. I told him to get a 7-08 and stick a Barnes bullet and go kill deer elk and moose. He's done all now with a 7-08 and 145gr Lrx

Here's his Island Elk hunt he did last fall. Bullet went through the elk and stopped on the offside hide, just poking out. Bullet was picture perfect magazine ad looking. Shot was 175yards IIRC.

http://youtu.be/1tOXSeY_Drw

Really enjoyed your video! Some great footage and put together really well! Being a BC boy, it almost makes me want to win that draw. I have another couple of decades worth of hunting in me,,,,somehow I don't think I've got enough time to win it, though! LOL

 

[Gatehouse]

My other buddy is the videographer. Thats his business.

I'm the guns & ammo guy. And the chef

But it's a good example of what a Barnes bullet in a modest cartridge can do to the largest of our elk species. Bang..........flop

 

[sure as shootin]

My other buddy is the videographer. Thats his business.

I'm the guns & ammo guy. And the chef

But it's a good example of what a Barnes bullet in a modest cartridge can do to the largest of our elk species. Bang….......flop

It's a lousy job,,,,but someone's got to do it, right? How many grains in that bullet he was shooting?

 

[Gatehouse]

145gr LRX bullet. High BC and expands at lower velocities than the TSX, but still retains it's shape/weight.

 

[Superbrad]

If you believe the glossy ads then you MUST believe that not a single game animal was successfully harvested before the advent of mono or bonded bullets.

As you note, and most of us who have been hunting since the time when a Pointed Soft Point "was a premium round" also know, if you do your part pretty much any "valid" hunting bullet will do it's job on any game that you might choose to shoot at.

I do agree that some of the higher BC, boat tailed bonded bullets allow you to "stretch your shot" to ranges that would have been "beyond ethical shooting" say 30 years back, but the Mfg's have done a good job of convincing "everyone" that you NEED such a bullet for the 50 yard shot on a White Tail.

I know that an 80 grain soft point from my 243 will take down Bambi at the typical range I hunt, yet I still shoot an SST or Ballistic Tip "because I have been convinced they are better" and I am "more confident" when shooting them - and that is a great part of the equation.

I think most of us on this board are the kind that either push the envelope or walk on the leading edge types. We sell ammo at work and I can tell you that the "overwhelming majority" of white tail hunters don't know or care anything about SST's, Mono's, Partitions, Bonded boat tailed bullets et al.

Their "criteria" is best described as: approach the ammunition cabinets, scan the price tags, find the lowest price in the caliber they want - buy that - go out with the boys and pop a deer.

Then there is the more "selective crowd". They come and want a box of 180 grain CoreLokt for their 308 because Dad shot them, Grand-dad shot them and everybody they hunt with "shoots them". And if we don't have them in stock, unless it's the night before the opener they will walk out and try to find those somewhere else.

The premium bullet market (in the pre-rolled stuff) is somewhat less than 10% of the market, at least in my piece of the country.

And you know, I have never had anyone come in and say - hey, those (blue/green box) things don't work worth a crap - five of us lost deer that we shot last season, give me something better.

Now it might sound like I dislike or don't use premiums - not the case - I could be the poster boy for Swift Bullets. Even though I "know" I don't need to shoot "that premium" the way I hunt, I also know that while I might have many doubts or worries when I get to the second stage of my trigger, "trust in the bullet" is not one of those worries - and for that piece of mind the price of shooting them is well worth it "for me".

Great post Graham..... And I wholeheartedly agree with the confidence factor..... From my perspective, the whole debate over what works in what and at what range actually makes me shy away from premiums..... Knowing C&C works, I lean towards that rather than a bunch of manufacturer promotion and Internet hype..... Guess I better get a whack of newspaper and start testing myself....