7mm Boo-Boo

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I was wondering if anyone out there is using a 7 boo-boo? I am plotting my next place to throw away money and I am 90% sold on building one.

I'm not interested in "this is better, that is schit" commentary, but I would like to know if anyone is using one, and what they are using for loads, powders, etc. as well as their personal recommendations for brass. Also, any first hand feedback in regards to accuracy at long range would be interesting to hear.
 
Sounds like a bigger fatter 280AI??????

That'll put it in a similar case capacity to the WSM. This does just fine at very long distances.

Lapua, Norma, RWS or some other Euro brand would be my thoughts for brass.

If you already have the dies and can source the brass, would make a very interesting wildcat.

Jerry
 
I wouldn't use anything but RWS 8x68S brass to make the BooBoo and the pickings are getting pretty slim getting that brass. Not sure if anyone else even makes 8x68S brass.

I have both a .30 and a 7mm BooBoo both made by Dave Tooley one of the creators of the case, Chuck Bass being the other. As far as I know the chambering is proprietary to Dave but you would have to check with reamer makers if you could get a reamer made or talk to Dave directly. Some taper is taken out and the shoulder angle is increased to 30 degrees.

I have not screwed on my 7mm BooBoo barrel and just started shooting the .30 with 187gr BIBs. I am using RL 22 and shooting the BIBs at 3135 averages with little to no signs of pressure in a 30" barrel. The 7mmBooBoo is supposed to be capable of STW velocities using RWS brass. I don't know but will find out soon enough.

Case capacity of the BooBoo is slightly larger than the .308 Norma Magnum and slightly smaller than a .300 Win Mag. The case is not belted.

It does not seem to be as popular as the .300 Ackley variants in 1000 yard benchrest but that case capacity is capable of winning on any given day just like a host of other cases.

Here is a picture of my rifle sitting at Dave's before he shipped it.

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The brass is a .270 WIN, .30 BooBoo, 7STW, and a .30 187 BIB
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If you're getting 7 STW ballistics from that smaller case, pressures must be sky high. I think it would be an interesting cartridge though, particularly an improved version, but I wouldn't expect it to light the world on fire. As mentioned, 8x68S brass isn't really common. I have an 8x68S, and getting brass wasn't all that easy. Not the worse I've ever had to dig up, but you don't find it at WSS. - dan
 
If you're getting 7 STW ballistics from that smaller case, pressures must be sky high.

Yea, if "case capacity of the BooBoo is slightly larger than the .308 Norma Magnum and slightly smaller than a .300 Win Mag", it sounds a lot like the good old 7mm Win Mag (plus about 5grs of capacity). Let's be honest - the belt is really not an issue. The talk of feeding issues with belted cases is way overdone, and in a single shot, well, nuff said.

P.S. you gotta come up with a new name. "7mm Boo Boo" just well, you know.
 
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I think most of Tooley's wildcats are named after bears, like the Yogi, etc.
it's esentially a long range BR cartridge, and many of those shooters do not like the belted cases.
FWIW, short range BR shooters likely have even more wildcats built off the .222 Remington and .223 as any other cartridge!:eek:
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Troy

THANK YOU!

What sort of loads are you using for the 30BB and what are you planning for the 7?

Are you running tight neck chambers?

BTW Skookum action... is that a Nesika?
 
The 7mmBooBoo is supposed to be capable of STW velocities using RWS brass. I don't know but will find out soon enough. RWS brass is capable of handling higher pressures than other brass, plus on a custom action one can run slightly higher pressures. Plus a 30 inch barrel should help a bit. Don't ask what the point blank benchresters are doing to .220 Russian brass as far as pressure is concerned.

The belt really is an issue! Going with a beltless case allows you to resize the whole case. Surely people who have reloaded enough belted mags know that sooner rather than later it gets hard to resize the portion of brass just above the belt. Sure it can be done with dies deisgned specially designed to do this but it is a PITA.

Ha! You don't find any brass, or powder, or bullets at wholesale sports. You don't find Lapua and anything else usually used for Benchrest shooting at Wholesale sports either with the exception of some components.

The 8x68 case is already improved, likely you would gain little by getting rid of more taper and moving the shoulder forward just give you a short neck and less ability to shoot different bullets like flatbase tangent and secant ogived bullets.
 
With modern actions and brass, there is a tendency now to ramp up pressures to make small cases do large things. All sounds good on paper but just remember that 65000psi is the SAAMI max for ALL magnum cartridges.

80,000psi is the usual PROOF pressure used to test actions.

Custom actions are still made from 'common' grades of steel used in commercial actions. They are just machined to much tighter tolerances. Their overall dimensions are also near identical to the Rem 700 so there is not extra 'meat' there.

They are still subject to the same material yield characteristics. I am no metallurgist but have heard and read from some who say they are, that these steels fatigue at a much higher rate when certain peak pressures are met.

At 65,000psi, the action might last nearly forever. At 80,000psi, substantially shorter lifespan. Get to 90,000psi and things wear out ALOT faster.

For the performance that BR cartridges are sometimes run at, their peak pressures have to exceed 65000psi by a significant margin. No one is brave enough to put a strain guage to find out.

Maybe, no one wants to know.

Custom actions have been in service long enough now that the oldest ones have digested alot of toasty shells. I hope that there will not be failures. maybe looking/testing for stress cracks might be in order.

Looking at the pics of the case comparison, my estimate for case volume looks to be right on. If this wildcat reaches STW performance, it has most certainly exceeded 65000psi.

80000psi proof loads eject from a factory action with 'no pressure signs' and easy bolt lift - I have some test cases. In a vault tight custom action, how much higher can you go?

Most test labs peg catastrophic failure of common actions at 120,000psi.

Jerry
 
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